Orc is easy to learn and to play, ofc Farseer is harder, but that still leaves grunts, ensnare, hex, always the same strats on every map vs all races etc.
There's a reason people switch to Orc just like that and Moon, remind, infi, th000 etc. said "lol orc no skill"

orc definitly isnt easy to learn, you dont even know how much effort you need to master the race (i am not talking about mastering the bm abuse), grunts are units without some special ability, without their hp they are completly useles, raiders with esnare, strong indeed .. but thats only one good ability stopping you in moving unlike other races(dryad, sorc ,flying lich), hex is dispelable and deals no dmg (compare it with other targetable spells like storm bolt, roots, poison from warden, coil, nova or sleep, which is much more better in my opinion)
moon or remind never say that, infi abuses with towers and th000 plays hu/ne instead of ud/orc so what are your other arguments?
i am not happy, when i see orc dominating in nearly every tournament, but i remember what was before it and i dont want to see it again (hu/ne dominating)

Yeah, you got it right. Orcs have high hp units that don't even need special abilities. Saying hex is weaker than entangle or any other nuke short of bolt or combined coil nova disqualifies you further. The rest is just lack of information on your site. Check Maly's interview with Remind from this very tournament, there he's says Orc is best race and easy to learn and control. Infi said it before and he beat grubby without towers. th000 said he beat Tod thx to playing orc (which he did).

And hu/ne dominating was 1 player each, Sky and Moon that were simply the best and they still lost sometimes to give Lyn, Fly, th000, Tod etc. their tournament wins. It's not a race dominating if it's the same player winning it all.

First of all,what's a flying lich?
Then you compare ensnare with dryad's slow poison and slow?Both of those counterable by speed scroll,sorc slow is dispellable,and ensnare is the only of the mentioned 3 that stops you from using staff of preservation.It's also the only one that stops all movement completly.
Storm bolt-dmg spell,with 5 sec stun.How long does hex last?Roots?Also dispelable,but i'll give you that.What other effective spells does a KotG have?Force of Nature?Thorns aura?As opposed to healing way and wards...
I dunno how you can even compare coil or nova to hex...Sleep is probably better than hex,but unfortunately,UD's are too depandant on DK/Lich and there are tons of better third hero choices.
What kind of an argument is ''th000 plays hu/ne instead of ud/orc''?What are you trying to prove?Btw,th000 did play orc against ToD recently and managed to beat him,even though the frenchman is in very good shape...And afterwards,guess what TH000 said?''I think I won cuz I played orc''.Simple as that.

As for grunts having no special ability...You mean,besides the ammount of hp as a human t3 unit and considerable dmg output?Ok...

And please,if your next argument is gonna be:''then why don't you swtich to orc and pwn everyone'',don't bother...

Sleep better than Hex? Allow me to laugh

Would you be so kind to explain why?One spell vs another?Please,enlighten me?

Sleep = hit and it wakes up. Hex = disappears when the unit (hero (DK))) dies (almost). Should be obvious

Ye...I wasn't thinking.Forgot about that completly...

Moreoever when you hex, the heroes cant get exp, it cost less mana and fit perfectly with riders and blademaster.

i would gladly change high hp vs some special useful ability, cos grunts are slow, big and expensive, are they worth it ? orc cannt win a game vs elf just by massing grunts (like undead can with ghouls), grunt cant hunt low hp huntress, cos she is a lot faster, you cant even focus properly with it cos its not range unit, you cant protect yourself vs range units like human can (hello fotman), all it have is a bit more hp, which mean it will die a little later ... and all this cost 200g and 3 food limit.
and i am saying hex is dispelable spell with no dmg, ist a support spell ... you cant do such havoc with solo sh like warden, mk, dk can ..
what i know what remind said, it was about imbalance and he told there isnt any .... even when it was in interview few years ago, the point of view is unchanged, plus even remind is a elf player, he know how to play orc since he started to play w3, but he never played it i any tournament
and infi beating someone without towers? come on... i remember few of his games, where the orc player played 3 lvl better then him, he still managed to win thx to overtowered map and after this he was still bitching about how is orc easy to play and how is the human race poor, no thx ...
th000, he plays hu/ne cos they are stronger then orc/ud, thats why .. and tod lost his motivation in w3 before players like lucifron started to beat him, everyone knows how was tod good when he got the lust to play
and it was definitly not only moon/sky dominating ....+ you forgot to mention one little thing, when on every tournament was 90 % players playing hu/ne ... orc/ud were very rare.
flying lich = frost wyrm
dryad posion is dealing dmg and slowing your attack speed, one sorc can slow 10 units in few seconds + slow is slowing attack speed, one rider can completly stopping you from moving, but what then? its not dealing dmg and your unit is free to attack with no debuff
and hex dont deal 350 dmg
and comparing grunt to knight, knight is faster in move speed/ attack speed, got higher armor, higher hp and higher dmg .. well...

only read to the part about Remind, and yeah, again, you have no clue. The rest is tldr.

I never compared a grunt to a knight,just their respective amounts of hp.
''one rider can completly stopping you from moving, but what then?''-Focus fire with BM+ grunts,which also completly refutes your argument of grunts being useless for focusing.

''Grunt can't hunt down low hp hunts''-and archers,footies and ghouls can,right?
''and i am saying hex is dispelable spell with no dmg, ist a support spell ... you cant do such havoc with solo sh like warden, mk, dk can ..''You said it yourself,it's a support spell,therefore,not a nuke/dmg spell(whatever you want to call it).
Why are you even comparing heroes in such a way?According to your logic,I would be right to bitch about the fact the MK can't blink around and harras like the warden does?An AM can't act as a tank as well as an MK?Why doesn't Warden's FoK also slow down attack/movement speed like MK thunder clap?

FunPlayer's argument of players owning,NOT races,is completly legit.

Also,to apply your way of reasoning...You said that hu/ne is stronger than orc/ud right?Ok.Then how do you explain TH000 beating ToD as an Orc vs the frenchman's HU?Orc being th000's off-race.Are you implying that TH000 is that much better than ToD?

have you ever tried to focus one unit with 6 grunts? want to see it how fast you will be in that, cos its not like with ranged units, i said it before, grunts are slow and big, effective focus fire is limited
abount huntress, grunt is expensive and slow unit, huntress have no problem with hunting a grunt ... the oposite is impossible ... and when archer,ghoul or fotman is killled, its not such waste of money and foodlimit like when grunt is killed
and about hero spells .... the fact that players are bitching about a suport spell when we got in w3 a lot more dangerous and better spells like hex
Tod, the player whitout any motivation in past 2 years? The great frenchman who started playing dota instead of playing serious solo in china? and he got beaten by active pro playing orc? that should be an argument ?

He doesn't suck on TM against Orc.Now,i haven't seen all the games from this tour,only the ones against fly(grp stage and finals).In the grp stage,moon went with talons,which I rly don't like on TM.And in the finals,dh/naga+couple of hunts and tower push?Against 2 bestiaries?Risky to say the least.
Why not simply go hunts to bears,like he used to in the past?Or maybe hunts to dryads+KotG?I've even seen dh/panda+dryads.Any of the above seems better than the strat moon had choosen in the finals...

He went Dh hunts in all games on TM, and lost way before he made the choice of tier2 units.
Also his APs were going up before Fly made his beastiaries, without him even knowing of the towers yet.

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