lucky ? with his conexion maybe ? he just pwned lyn, fly and he won moon too, so ?

actually grubby won 3 times vs fly once vs lyn

the first game vs lyn was a joke it was lucky by lyn second game lyn was better 3rd game grubby was better so I'd say gubby about equal to lyn in that mu

however grubby won vs fly decisively three times - he is just good in the mu vs fly he gets fly and understands how fly plays so he defeats him _usually_ not always

fly's playing style seems to be very well suited vs lyn; lyn never had a chance in any of their meetings

oh and btw lyn won 2 games in the mirrors between fly grubby; fly won 3; grubby won 4 so yes all in all if you look at it SANELY grubby is the better orc from them not at last grubby was the ONLY one to beat moon and by that I mean to beat the crap out of moon; only "flaw" was losing to lucifron

bla, we ll see 2morrow. For me Lyn is still best Orc, 2nd Grubby

for you that is true

but the numbers say that today grubby was better.

"Then again Fly is better vs Lyn than vs Grubby. All in All lucky for Grubby"

Do u really think Grubby is "lucky" because he has to play against Fly, the mirror king ? u are really funny xD. Lyn, Grubby, Moon and Fly are too strong, everything can happen ^^

What numbers?

Lyn 1-0 Grubby
Lyn 1-0 Grubby
Lyn 0-1 Grubby

Here u have numbers. :)

Agree with Pan7her, Disagree with MLW and pSe_eSp should just leave this place or shut his mouth because he's not really contributing to the discussion.

hey legendarytroll, I´m agree with pan7heR and I´m saying to MLW that Grubby just played nice today and he isnt lucky if he plays against Fly, mb u must learn to read and understand what u read ;)

Im reading what ever I want to read. And ignoring what ever I want. NOTHING CAN EVER TAKE MY LIBERTY OF SPEECH AWAY

final Grubby Vs Moon

this tour cant tell anything about balance..
when there are only 5 good players in a tour and 4 of them are orcs, there's a very high % for having orc mirror final.

That might be true if not ALL FUCKING TOURNAMENTS ended in a FUCKING ORC MIRROR.
And if that ain't enough that's the SECOND OFFLINE TOURNAMENT IN A ROW WITH 3 ORCS IN THE TOP 3.

At least stop denying this bullshit.

I hate all that talk about "Moon out of shape", "Moon playing crap" or "Orc playing great".

Fact 1: Moon is in awesome shape, he's NOT playing Sc, he trains 10 hours a day and most of them vs Orc.
Fact 2: Moon plays awesome, if he wins everybody goes like "That's moon for you". He plays risky strats to somehow get the edge because in a normal game you just can't win, neither in the short run because Blademaster gets all the items and creeps, nor in the long run because level 5 TC with a random mana item will solo your army.
Fact 3: Orcs don't play great, they play the same shit over and over and over and over.

And yet back then Moon was almost exclusivly the one winning stuff for them elfs, but he hasn't really been able to do that lately it seems. But yeah I guess the other elfs helped rule out some of the orc competition then, cause it seems most tournaments end up with just a bunch of orcs and perhaps a few other players gunning for the throphy nowdays..