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9 months ago
PoRnoAddicted
Forest guys)

What do U think about creeping in forest from the beginning?
I think it increase opportunity to win!
And U?

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I think that if u play vs good team u cant cuz they will set an obs and gang u you will be low lvl and no items , then u will lose
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You can counter ganks with your own wards, killing opponents when they come to gank, your teammates will always be closer that enemies. Any jungle hero can go to lanes if jungling is too hard. Anyway it depends on your and enemy hero choise, play style and so on. At low skill levels i think its always good to go jungling and in mid skill its kind of hard to pull out maximum out of it, not by the jungling hero, but the one that got a solo lane cause of it.
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1.BristelbackJkE
2.Centaur warchief
3.Axe
4.Beastmaster
5.Juggernaut
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broodmother will be a good choice as well
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Depends what u put in the woods and what you can get out of it ^^
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Nowadays we can C Centaur in every 3rd game! It is very usefull to have 2 solo heroes and nice gang coming from forest...
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making stronger lanes and put wards in the forrest helps much more imo
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Well yes... but such teams like U can have a nice forest one and wards too. And then U`ll have radiance, immortal mirana and damaging Viper with the help of magnus and slardar.
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I think jungeling from the start is very helpfull, depending on your own team though, you need to be good at jungeling, the player you leave to solo 2 other heros have to be able to manage last hit/deny vs 2 heros. and you also need wards to counter the other teams wards, witch they will put to counter jungelers.

but all in all, i think jungeling from lvl 1 can be very usefull if used properly.
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If there is qop and SF in one team, surely you can afford to jungle one guy, mb centaur or luna. Some things just work well :)
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moonrider can jungeling.
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Ye moonrider has been seen jungling a lot, but centaur is the best imo. Its pretty hard to stop a centaur from farming, even if he gets killed sometimes in the beginning he can get the farm back really fast in the forest
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I totally agree with loda. Not rarely, lately we saw a THD enter the luna-farmed-forest, and kill her once or twice. and it didnt happen with low ranked teams , if you catch my drift. :)))
anyways, centaur is the best radiance carrier imo, maybe next to leoric or pig, and he farms it really fast, with vanguard and boots and maybe defiance... why not ?
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mb Levithan can jungling.
if he do 2 & 3 skills (with vangurd).in the forest he don't lose any hp.imo
but Levithan isn't top hero just now/
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The best Hero to jungle is BM.
He has the smallest way to the spots and can pull like no one else.
With his PIG (SPIDERPIG :D) he dont have to tank the full damage and dont have to go back that much.

Centaur also is a rly good Hero in woods. probably the best, because BM is often banned and so Cent gets into the Lineup. Cent is also a good Lategamer with Radi, AC, Bot, Dagger, Sata....

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Jungling is waste in easy mode (if you consider playing public) but its realy good in normal modes without -em..
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Well yes, jungling is good. But if you for example are Rexxar jungling. You will be haunted, you got to be carefull. And also backup lanes and ganks.
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It's all about keeping your enemies to their lanes ^^
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Tb = the most dangerous for lategame when jungle if u know how to jungle with , 1XConjured image Stat x 1 meta x 2 MASS x stats ( its the most important cause illu= tanking ) Ulti lvl 8 and here we go for radi at 25 mn
But Cent is the imba woodfarmer really non stop
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I always thought Axe is >>> Centaur at jungling...
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well not really .. imo cent is better because he is bulkier, thorns > counter helix anytime, and he has a stun :D
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I dont know really, when it comes to axe compared to centaur its a bit even imo. If u have decent luck with the hcounter hellix axe will farm faster! But the reason to why centaur may be a more valid pick is that axe is a bit weaker as a heroinitiater etc.
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This is one point I don't understand. I mean Axe seems to be the best tank imo, because he can force the enemy to attack him plus getting extra armor. Centaur can stun but I think Berserkers Call is a little more effective. Besides, if Axe farms well he can kill low hp heroes so easily with blink/bc/ultimate.

just my 2 cents
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Axe goes down too fast if being spammed over by nukes.
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and anyway axe is corrupted by Pitlord Blood then he is weak
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:D U know that much extra armor doesn't do as much as u think since the effect of extra armer is reduced the higher u get, like 35 extra aint THAT big a difference compared to 20 etc. Cent gets a free messer? :O
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Oh btw, two properly put wards in forest = GG to the forest hero :)

Maybe except cent.
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"of extra armer is reduced the higher u get"
That's why a ring of balisius or buckler from mekasn are really effective especially if u play zeus , necro or this kind of heros these items are + 20% extra armor
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Level 3 - Creepin` yey..xD
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Centaur is the jungel master even if he is killed as loada says he will come back faste and the stuff he does best ganks och farming. A dagger after 16 min far from imposible and when that one is done the ganks will never end :D.
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Have everyone forgot how good ursa is at farming the forest?:)
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have everyone forgot how ursa is totally overpowered with the new lothar & dagger ?:)
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lol, how does one jungle succesfully with juggernaut?
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It depends on your hero and team
If your team has 2 good soloers like Zeus and Magnus
And you Have Beastmaster (yes very difficult do happen x) )
You should go BM jungle ;O
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Using bottle and going bfury + stats. Rapes a lot of creeps. and then just go stygian or mom.
Easy to jungle with juggy.
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increase opportunity to win? i dont think so...

it depends on your team and enemy

how if ur enemy warded your forest and gank u all the time?

you're dead for sure...
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well i found it pretty easy to jungle with chen on 6.52..
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thumbed u down
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thumbed down again
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Kick his troll ass !!!
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oh yes i love it but i always just start ob level 5 or so but i don´t think it will bring you to the win more than to the loose^^
Best Hero´s for Forest:
1.Centaur
2.Darksear
3.Beastmaster
4.Axe
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Dark Seer ... farmbot in tha forest..
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how come Enchant never put for forester... get the charm creep skill first that skill refreshs so fast u can get the big creep kill the little ones and then when u get like 3-4 creeps go gank in the lane.

Even if other team wards forest u should be able to know when people are missing from lanes... just don't get ganked and they'll lose exp for not being in lane and your teammates will get easy last hits.
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Yeah you can do that or use chen as a forester it is much eseayer and he have a global heal
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i sure that pretty good in forest farming is terror blade because of his soul steal,he can farm as fast as you can! first buy ring of bassilus then go in lane! w8 until your ST reach lvl 2! then go to the forest and let's rock from gaining more income. then straight to relic then end your radiance for most effective farming! then straight forward for your core item like skadi or any item defend on your situation!
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this is bad really playing with soul steal its a total waste of points
Tb is good using Conjured lvl 1 and stats . Like this ur illu will tank a lot creeps in forest and illu only cost 85 mana lvl 1 . Its the best way of constant farming with tb.
The build with radiance is good when u are playing against bm , nerubian weaver cause its usefull buy nowadays we all saw that S&Y and butter is really better
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my favourite jungle heros:
chen
lycan
centaur
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I do not agree. I've meet an imba terrorblade with that build (though he went solo lane mid) but anyhow he went soul steal and straight radiance, went forest on like lvl 5-7 or something. He won the game almost alone. Pushed all 3 lanes alone and when we were about to push. Gangbang dead GG
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Happens all the time to me too :D he can be unkillable at times.
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ofc it's totally different -_- when u play tb mid u have to take soul steal but it wasn't what I was talking about
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I don't think you can jungle Jugg with the new bottle though. Not enough hp/mana regen for it to work :(
Chen is best jungle IMO, then Centaur. lol can't believe hector missed that one ^^
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I don't understand what wards have to do with it. If there are 4 heroes in lane, you KNOW there's someone jungling. If the creep waves aren't coming at the right times, you KNOW they're pulling. So it should be easy to call a gank and pwn the person in the forest right?
WRONG
1. If your heroes leave the lane to gank, the other team will obviously notice and call mia, giving warning to the person jungling.
2. If the other team is decent, they will also ward the river. The jungler willl then see you coming and run. Now you have wasted precious time looking to gank, 2 or more heroes will not be gaining XP and Gold because they are ganking, whereas the opponent only has 1 hero not gaining XP and gold (the jungler)
3. Unless you call a mass forest raid, it will be very hard to kill them! Junglers are usually Chen, Beastmaster, centaur, Axe. These heroes are either very beefy (axe, cent) or have lots of disable! (BM slow and Chen stun), so it won't be easy to just kill with 1 or 2!!

Yup yup, so all in all, jungling rocks! =D