SphinxDeluxe



Newbie

I like the ganking games more than farming games - i totally agree with you ..
but also .. the entertainment could be to see their tactics and most of all, those awesome late game fights there will be :)

godlikelo



Newbie

there r many kind of games that totally depend on both sides' "line up" .How many games have u seen that a team that had a "late" agi -maybe- hero lost to others in ~30 minutes and farm hero couldnt do shit? Totally depends man and thats why dota is a strategy game.U have to play the game in many "stages" , in game and "out" ..

Falconate



Newbie

@godlikelo
I like it more this version since imo you can use a lot more heroes. Though they should add a little more gold for killing people so there could be a little less farming

FloWofDota



Newbie

well i would say that farming is a must by dota for now
just count:
5 creepkills = 1 herokill
so it makes more sense for me to farm the creeps or in forest than running behind a hero and try to get his head or mb loose mine
so i wouldnt say it is getting boring
it is very hard to calculate (well for me its still hard) when you can lasthit a creep to get the money
thats my opinion
greets

ThePrins



Normal

The thing about this patch is that "public" dota such as dotapickup and such has turned into farm wars like you say. This ofc is because you dont really have a natural teamplay when you play with 4 other players you dont know. Sometimes that does happen though but its not that common. On the professional lvl the ganking is still a very important part of the game. But yes even on that lvl the ganking has been reduced.

robocop



Pro

I agree. It's boring than before. I love 6.48b

robocop



Pro

@godlikelo
it's not really that they use more heroes at draft games. everyone says it because when it's first released we have to try all heroes to see the differences of 2 versions. Now you can see in the tournament there is just some heroes being used over and over. Now we can played brood, Chen v.v.. but no more tiny, lina v.v.. !!

crisstina



Newbie

you're right robo.we can't see much ganking specialized heroes;tiny,lina,sand king in recent tournaments.it's also bcus of the nerf of dagger which makes almost everyone farm and no need to have higher skill as before.imo it'd be better to rebug the dagger again.

RodolpheSalis



Newbie

dota = boring shit?

hell what took you so long to find that out :P

knotir



Newbie

6.48b was a real impressive ganking game.
ganker heroes like beast master were the 1st pick but now, dragon knight and etc become first.

ice frog improved carry heroes and reduced ganker abilities,
now, spectre is farming with no fear, but in 48b, there was a slayer, or rexxar, that doesnt let her farm.

i miss 48b :((
(sry for my bad en)

knotir



Newbie

i think they must price for assists, it makes a better game i think

B-wall



Newbie

@knotir
Rexxar is still a top pick/ban. :P

crisstina



Newbie

yea.rexxar still top choice.btw,we see more farming specialized heroes like dk,spectre,luna,tb,etc. more and more.

SnoKee



Newbie

I'm personally a bit... split when it comes to .52e. I really liked the dagger/bottle nerfs since it made more heroes actually pickable and since everyone now found different and exciting builds. However, the farminggame that we see now isn't that fun to watch. So now it feels like DotA have taken a step back when it comes to the biggest problem for the game as an e-sport - the looooong games.

I really hope Icefrog can find some sort of balance between a fast-paced gankwar but still with alot of heroes being used in different strategies. The problem is I don't have a clue what really could be changed to achive this, since it would have to be something major.

knotir



Newbie

Im leader of ReBorn
we realy had bad play in ESWC master in paris, cause of this changing stable map.
and every one said "they realy ..."
we wasn't as noob as they think
our last tournament in iran was 48b
and we hadn't play 52e against a team since eswc master
we realy wasn't that bad that they said ...
I'm realy sad of this shit :(((

lampuiho



Newbie

play against HE AI (play with 4 AI in your team, and against 5 AI)
then you should know farming is not an option

ENkO



Elite

GANK ?!!!??? ghhhh te correct term is GANG and it come's from the expresion GANG-BANG stop say'n GANK :( its wrong !! Oh ... btw "gank"/ed was formed when newb's heard the word GANG for the first time and thought it was GANK and passed it along ...big mistake you GANG-BANGERS.

Acme



Newbie

Gank came from the same linguistic proprieties than Gank, is more simple to the human say Gank than Gang (i am talking about latine languages at least)

About that, the kind of strategie choosed for now.
The ganks are working for pro players, but like have to work some late heroes go to ganks just to "eat" the last-hits and come back to farm, to save the team on last minutes.

That my opinion!

ENkO



Elite

"That my opinion ma'
M@N :D dazdingo :D you talk like a Troll ( stay away from the voodoo )

Acme



Newbie

@.o BKB FTW!! Voodos wont work!! ;)

Acme



Newbie

I forgot to say, carries are boring ;D I prefer so much play a support / ganker!

crisstina



Newbie

gank or gang.whatever! i hope the new version will introduce new play style.
nice to see the rebugged dagger.it can make really good ganking/ganging again.

knotir



Newbie

gogogo gank :D
dagger does'nt reBugged, it got reworked.

-T-



Newbie

really boring farming game ... i dont think so .. now there is just more strategy and gangs are still here.... gang + push in right moment = win...
cant push ? just farm get stronger / gang again farming enemy / then push again! gg
:)

SpiritDancer



Newbie

Yep Old style better

Artemus



Newbie

6.56 seems to be ganking again! Fast game also.

sonkan



Pro

I don't know why they stopped using 48b. IMO it was so nice to watch( Started to play at .50)

knotir



Newbie

48b was my love, but they will choose stable version to make the game, a bit different.
sometimes it's bad and sometimes it's good.

Artemus



Newbie

Still missing 6.48b?

Time will change, so do the game play~ Get use to it, accept it!!

Acme



Newbie

At last is good to see the game changing to force players to build new strategies to the game.

PartyRiceRice



Newbie

How would this game continue to be fun if we continued to play the same version repeatedly? changing the game regularly forces us to adapt with new strategies, play styles, builds, etc. and improves your gameplay overall. If we continued to play the same version of the game, people wouldn't continue to play it. Making changes to a game keeps people on their feet and into the game. I would kill myself out of pure boredom if they didn't make changes to the game constantly.