Ok so here iw my question, upcoming patch 3.0 what is the viable rogue spec for arena with resto druid? please give me insights!! thanks!

I got a spec that ill be using, crit whoring and kill stealng ;D

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=fZMghzxbxorubgRtxbcdhh

idk how to make a hyper link but youll catch me on Fenris with this:P

I agree...
the rogue multilate with the patch 3.0.0 was much better!!

:P

Very much agree.

ye, mutilate got huge dmg burst.. i play mutilate with evis. and its glyph.. most things i do crit.. its like having 80% crit and and with EA ... BaM 3,6k-4k mutilate.. just insane ;)
44/5/12

but i somehow started to miss the good old ShS as it was b4 the patch Q_Q .. .. but in the end, the overall changes will improve competitive arena much more. and i cant wait for s5 ;)
thinking of 45/5/21 for lvl80

the best spec rly depends on how you play and what abilities u perfer to use... also the most rogues is useing this spec atm:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ecoezsiroczZ0xZebfb0hdb
but if you play 2v2, 2x rogue the spec will be alot diffrent - differs for what you need.
if you have a nice dagger, Shadow dance will clearley be the best spec for soloing any player, i got hit by 2x 9k ambush crits in a cheapshot - aka 2 shottet.

yeah, when you enter the higher stages of arena, you need the resilience, depends on rating really, in the 1500-1800 i would go in full nuke gear tbh. a rogue with full t7.5 can basicley 2 shot one in arena. at 1800+ u meet skilled n full resi geared people which might take the breath from you when ur crits lowered from 10k to 6k (mine did)

@Otweezy
The spec you linked is for level 80, his question was about the specs for the upcoming 3.0 patch.
@dvno1
So you think that 9% more dmg isn't worth 1 talent point? And it's bleeding effects it removes, not hamstring, wing clip or any other movement impairing effect whatsoever.
@onepeace65
To answer your question. This is a spec I could see myself use in pvp. It's a deep mutilate spec.
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ecoegsiMocuhoZxbb

@Otweezy
The spec you linked is for level 80, his question was about the specs for the upcoming 3.0 patch.
@dvno1
So you think that 9% more dmg isn't worth 1 talent point? And it's bleeding effects it removes, not hamstring, wing clip or any other movement impairing effect whatsoever.
@onepeace65
To answer your question. This is a spec I could see myself use in pvp. It's a deep mutilate spec.
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ecoegsiMocuhoZxbb

Oh and how come you dont want any points on Focused Attack? IMO i think its pre legit

Sorry for the triple post. >.

hmmmmm so Imma NELF rogue, and I have + stealth as a passive talent. In pvp and arena have 3pts on master of deception helps or no?

You don't even have Focused Attack in your spec so just stfu. I have no energy problems in arena. And no, higher stealth level is not better than improved sap.

well, afaik s4 will end with the content patch, so it doesnt matter wich specc in lvl70 "skirmish Arena" you choose tho, its not rated.. and for lvl80 time will tell, i mean, srsly s1 30/0/31 or mutilate -> HARP. s2 - HARP / mutilate , s3 ShS / mutilate, same with s4.

speccs are changing, time will tell how viable different speccs are with the gear, new skills & talents and new racials.

after some buffs and nerfs it will be easy to see wich speccs "survive" ;)

True, I dont know seems like our 51 talents are useless at this time

there will be rated arenas for points/gear. but don't expect fierce competition because no titles.

44/5/13 looks good

ye i noticed that, btw. i just thought about the return of the "HARP" with SS @lvl.80, with those glyph + specc, you should get a 60sec cd IMP.sprint , weapon specc, +25% more energy reg, and so on.
combined with 2 other major glyphs like :

Glyph of Preparation (Req. lvl. 30) - Your Preparation ability also instantly resets the cooldown of Blade Flurry, Dismantle, and Kick.

Glyph of Sinister Strike (Req. lvl. 15) - Your Sinister Strike critical strikes have a 40% chance to add an additional combo point.

i will try it ;)

do you know what Harp is?
what's the purpose of having a sinister strike glyph if you have hemo?

i got whit http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fbe00eZZe0fbhrddizA0Rt

5/5/51 is the sub weapon swapping build. when you activate shadowdance, swap to dagger if you wish to ambush or keep hemo up with mace/sword/fist.

sure ? this specc is kinda.. ye pointless,cuz you specced imp. ambush - i assume you're going to play ShS with daggers, why you didnt specc Opportunity and puncturing wounds ? aswell after the poison changes, vile poisons has become.. ye useless for ShS. if you're going to do arena with this specc, why you didnt specc honor amog thieves either ?(the list goes on) these are 3 very important talents imo wich i dont want to left with 0 points, for ShS dagger.

you should make a new one ;)

My rogue is currently specced 7/3/51 without imp ambush or any of that.. pure shs hemo with shadowdance. Its working allright.

ye was thinking about almost the same, but i took imp.EA and leave Deadended Nerves without points to get Focused Attacks, 2 energy sounds like almost nothing, but i dont wanna know how often i have +2Energy on the screen ;p its worth it if you play with a healer. imp.EA as 1st finisher just costs 5 energy together with overkill, its nice

@rockychalk [" i just thought about the return of the "HARP" with SS @lvl.80"] (SS = Sinister Strike)

the answer is simple, if you take a closer look at the combat talents, SS get huge dmg buffs, wich hemo doesnt. i said HARP cuz of the the Arush + prep i know the "H" stands for hemo, but hemo isnt worth it compared to SS with those talents, with the passive +25% energy reg you dont care about the 40energy costs ;)

Not really needed right now. Its just rush rush.

ôo sry mate, but this isnt a good specc.. neither for pve or pvp, combat dagger is one thing.. but again a dagger specc without puncturing wounds but imp.SS instead ? Dirty Tricks is missing aswell,
and if you plan to go fist weapons, why Opportunity? for garrote ?

besides.. your specc is for lvl.80 ;)

my spec is the one atm ;o) muti ftw shame my brutals maces are worthless atm :(

My lvl 80 specc: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhecoeMsiroIu0o0xZebbb

80 lvl http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ebkeMobZZebfbI0ddVzA0R

I would say deep >anything<
Muti is very strong atm and on beta too 51 5 5
I dont really like 10 0 51... maybe shadowdance with 20 in assa..(just wotlk)
Combat looks too nice with ulti

i would say try muti or combat

u need good dagger and then spec 41 5 21
atm the strongest rogue spec..for bg maybe shadowdance with dagger..maybe
but in arena is 41 5 21 better. if u play with a mage or another rogue 2v2..maybe shadowdance
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhxcoeMoiroGzZ0xZebbbI0db