Hi first of all:)

I recently started WoW again after a two year break and playing a resto druid in Naxx. My all time love was a mage back then so I started a mage. Now I hit 70 and I realised frost isn't that good for PvE anymore. So my question: which is the best spec for mages? I heard many people say 2/48/11 is the best one (and I am that now). [Btw. I have 905 Spelldamage/31%crit 9with my own buffs)/141 spellhit]. Now I know Mage does rly good damage and the 15% more damage from scorch is a nice also with the improved fireball etc. BUT. I looked at Arcane tree and I saw full arcane might not even be that bad. I mean you get 10% Spellhit from talents, 15% more int, 32% of int turns into spelldamage (with spellfire) and and and. So I am just thinking to myself: Wouldnt Arcane be better? Just simply because you could replace most of your spellhit with plus damage/crit. And also you have 40% reduced aggro so you could do more damage with generating less aggro? And also if Arcane, What would you use? Arcane missle or Arcane Blast?

I skilled now 46/15/0 and I have to say... A macro with OP Pyro is just so much fun for PvP. My Spellpower turned into 1050 and crit is 25%. I had a 5,9k crit so far and thats fun enough:D

There is no way in taking a full arcane spec for pve, it's not viable, arcane is something U should combine with fire or frost if you like, the arcane spells are so mana effectable that theres no chance U will keep ur mana pool up high enough for long enough when it comes to PVE content.

Also I do not agree on your comment about frost what so ever, ever since the last patches frost mages are considered as both a PVP & PVE class depending comepletely on the spec U take.

The good thing about frost mages is in content lower then SWP, that U dont need that much crit (u gain 10% from Winter's Chill) and can stack haste which makes a frost mage, who does slightly less damage from it spells, but gains casting time & crit rating over a fire mage.

Best specs should be something like:

For Fire Mage theres more but a good one is: 0 / 40 / 21

Why 21 frost, that is cause when U hit higher content U want to be able to use coldsnap for ur icy veins cooldown.

For Frost Mages theres only one good build and that's: 18 / 0 / 43

Arcane for Meditation & Concentration this will effect ur mana pool by quiet alot, the 30% regen and the 10% chance on clearcasting.

Also I forgot to add that the Frost Mages hit cap is still 126 where about the fire mages is way higher.

I see:)

I just have one question: Why is Hitcap only 126 with a frostmage?

ghost hit =]

May I ask what that is?:D

first and only rule is we dont talk about it :D

:D Thats mean:( Second Rule is: (lemme guess) We dont talk about it.

41 / 0/20!!

For pvp/duelist

imba high dmg frostbolts

Not to hijack a thread... Does the 0/40/21 drop DPS significantly? Does the 2nd icy veins make up for that loss? Is there a certain gear level that it doesnt matter?
My guild has been making attempts at Brutalus, which I was my normal spec of 40/0/21 and doing quite well with mana avg'n 1700-1800 dps. I recently got my 4pct6 and with some gear swaps, am also hitting 1700-1900 dps as Fire now. I want to stick to Fire for Brut mainly because of molten fury, but I do miss the survival of a 2nd Burn wipe in ice block and a 2nd icy veins.
In my current fire gear.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bronzebeard&n=Armz

0/40/21 is pretty much pure single target dps spec. you loose out on some aoe talents and yea u loose like 1% crit and a little bit of damage but the second iv you gain for below 20% hp on a boss is awesome. honestly you loose very little from the fire tree, and the second ib can help u in a pinch as well =P

I'm currently speced 2/48/11, and with my guild we have fully cleared BT and MH but I still don't seem to put out as much dps as i'd like to, so I was wondering if you guys could give me some tips like what spec should I go or what rotation should I use to improve my dps, what I usually do is spam Scorch till stacked 5 times then spam Fire Balls ( about 3-6) then refresh Scorch and if I'm in range for a Fire Blast, I will use it every time its up, if this isn't the best rotation please let me know and if theres something different I could do let me know. This is the current spec and gear I have on my Mage as of 8/05/08.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dark%20Iron&n=Coj

Thanks,
Coj, Vital, Dark Iron, US

T4: Fire
T5: Arkan+Fire/Frost
T6: Frost

Fire is the only spec to go for a correct PvE mage.
2/48/11 up to BT, then when you get more haste rating (>150) switch for 0/40/11.
Frost is a PvP spec and doesn't have any advantage in PvE.
Arcane might be good when you just have 2 part T5, but above and before, fire rules again.

you ment 0/40/21 ?

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