Ok I've just noticed that you guys have got your second bow after what, 10 resets? (Don't get me wrong, big gratz) But I thought the whole idea of a "Legendary" or "Orange" suited piece of gear/weapon means it was very hard to obtain, a very low percent droprate or something that depends much less on chance.. Hard grinding/quests.. Look at Thunderfury for example.

Anyway, I don't think this should be counted as a legendary weapon, tons of people have this, on their 1st or second kill.

/Discuss

You should see how many warglaive sets we got from Illidan!

Vodka got 3 bows!

Well we got 2 mh glaives from illidan, and im pretty sure we have done more bt runs then anyone else...And now finally we get something useful!

cant wait to run into fucking pve bm hunters in arena, 3k+ dps vs cloth from 40 yard that cant be stoped sounds like fun

http://www.wowprogress.com/item/34334_Thori'dal%2C+the+Stars'+Fury

42 bows in the world, its not like every Legolazz is going to have this bow. Im sure it has a higher drop chance than glaives mainly because alot less guilds will be killing KJ than what kill Illidan nowadays, so blizzard put up the % abit to make up the difference.

just because certain guilds been lucky and others unlucky doesnt mean it should not be considered "legendary". The droprate is very low

like look at the warglaive. SK got a total of 2 mh glaives by ourselves since the first kill last summer and 0 oh glaives, and then look at Inner Sanctum in which they got like 5 completed warglaive sets (both mh and oh)

the glaive droprate has gone alot higher i think now cause my server has about 20+ on it

I say it is legendary, everyone who complains saying Warglaives arent legendary and this bow isnt legendary probrally is not raiding past SSC/TK if raiding at all and are only complaining because they are likely to come up against people with them in arena. If you ask me PVP gear is too easy to get and too common but remains unchanged because then all the people complaining about common legendaries will start complaining about how difficicult it is to obtain PVP gear.

SabiaNz, I was a sunwell raider...... So stop making retarded assumptions.

If you were a Sunwell raider it must of been a very short lived experience to of already been in a past term sense. I guess I just made another retarded assumption huh?

is it so hard to play against AI ? PVE nerd...

I'm sure there are lots of people in the wow community that are quite disappointed regarding the way that legendary drops are handled in TBC. Naxxramas imo was the only instance in which the legendary issue was relatively well handled. Even though someone might have been unlucky, he was guaranteed a staff in the long run, while with the glaives and bow it's just a matter of pure lack. Nothing less, nothing more.

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we @ TDE have exactly 0 glaives :p but we have a bow

sabianz that was a completly retarded thing to say............ive seen past illidan and when ive killed him about 15+ times and ive seen 5 glaives its 2 high of a drop rate so your statement is moronic

Well congratulations on you're success and the drop rate of Warglaives you have recieved but if you honestly believe it's that easy for everyone then I'm sorry but it is you're statement that is retarded and moronic. Why do you think in WoTLK there is 10 man versions of every raid, it is obviously because Blizzard is trying to even out the number of people PVP'ing to the people doing end game PVE. Yes they are legendaries but what is the point if they were just so rare that no one had them? Whats the point of a game where you do not have fun? For those at that level the fun lies in obtaining those legendaries and certain rare epic drops.

Digging a hole for urself mate

And whilst you get 5 glavies in 15 kills, some guilds get no glaives in 70~ kills, so it all balances out in the end. Everyone knows legendarys were done wrong in tbc, with them all being drops instead of questlines, and I think Blizzard even know that and will fix it for WoTLK (I hope).

well dunno we got warglaive on our 1st kill offhand and so far not a signle one its like 17kills or something

Thunderfury ? loool

How many hunters will kill KJ ?
How many hunters will kill KJ, more than 10 times before wrath ?

Definitely a legendary weapon,

still.. the bow shudnt of been a drop... neither shud WG.. the idea of making the item is nice, like atiesh,sulfuras and tf..

tsuku,sk has alrdy killed KJ like 5 times

so iam wrong yes? arena s4 will go on for like 6-10 months, a lot of time for MEDIUM guilds to FARM KJ.
my server is very slow in pve prog, but even we have guilds close to muru kill. in like 1 month every DECENT guild will have KJ farm status, and the bow drops A LOT.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mannoroth&n=Laynd
rogue with the bow, 4th bow for the guild soon they will disenchant it couse every class will have one

they drop AT LEAST as often as glaives, and dude i cant tell you last time a saw a rdd time with less then 2 glaives

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mannoroth&n=Andi

they even have TWO rogues with the bow, very rare drop indeed !

ecco u kinda jelous or what? my bad ur one of those PVP wannabe heroes guys i guess that state pve is bullshit with pressing 1 or 2 bottons right ?

pve is bullshit with pressing 1 or 2 bottons!

This thread contains PVE talk, not PVP the door is that way >>>>> GTFO.

i am one of those "PVP wannabe heroes guys" that state that immense amount of pve gear is not working towards balance in the different arena brackets.
a rogue with even s4 weapons and full pvp versus a rogue with dual glaives and 4pc t6 are not even the same class, same goes for heavy pve gear bm hunters. i cant even imagine the dmg output whith that bow.
but i guess my s1 s2 s3 2500+ gladiator arena experience is inferior to yours, so my opinion has no value.
i dont care about a few pieces of pve gear, but there are a decent amount of items that are just overpowerd.
i.e. glaives, that bow, the illidan heal trinket, ssc spirit trinket and so on

Your PVP skills are better than mine, my PVE skills are higher than yours. What's the point? Why add that when this clearly has nothing to do with PVP.

um s4 is only gonna be good for another 3-4 months woltk is coming in november

Nihilum have their 4th bow after 10 resets :P *blizzard love imo*

droprate doesn't matter if the instance is so hard most people can't complete it. if you kill kiljaeden you deserve to get that bow.

Finally, a decent and thought out reply.

Retarded reply.