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NE vs HU - LVL 3 Blizzard

I uh.. I'm not quite sure if this is realy a strategy forum per se, so lock this if its off topic.

I have been having quite a bit of trouble vs human. Tower rushes close spawns, fast expo into mass tanks into gyros into something else(gryphon seem to own me after tanks), all the general stuff.

However despite it being my worst matchup I generaly manage to keep a 55% win vs these strats. The main thing I am having problems with is when they will fast expand (this is especialy hard on Echo Isles) and mass up caster/breaker and just stay alive long enough to get LVL 5 Blizzard. This is where my problems begin.

I can't reposition effectivly with the slow cast on most of my bears, and if they use the positioning on the map (choke points below expansion on echo isles is the one that has been owning me lately), its quite hard to spread effectivly.

I have tried making more dryads than bears to counter slow and reposition as soon as blizz comes but I always found my dryads stuck behind a wall of breakers and forced to do reduced damage to his front wall, and it still wasnt dispelling fast enough to get the slow off my bears.

I have also tried making a dark ranger third, but she is usualy lvl 1-2 and gets nuked so hard by the lvl 3+ MK+focus fire that its almost not worth having.

Also blizzard is 75 mana with no cooldown from a 500+ mana pool, even when he wasnt focusing the DR I just couldnt keep up with his spells.

Any thoughts?

Posted: 2008-03-03 08:30:40

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nl Sasuke-twR
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Sasuke-twR
Either get the dark ranger first, get a few archers + mercs and harass the expand hardcor with a panda while expanding on ur own. Or just harass with dh/naga or dh/panda, tech on to t3 while trying to hide a tree of life and leveling ur panda or just harass with the naga. As soon as u hit bears try to push and be sure to staff well. By doing this your opponent cannot harass your expand effectively because he has to defend. And about the blizzard/sorc thingy. Fairy dragons or bringing wisp will most likely deal with em. Also, an anti magic potioned panda or naga + dryads can do some nice aoe damage while u snipe em down with ur dryads. Just get a heal scroll to heal up ur bears with dh or simply silence the archmage. Its the most balanced thing out there, way better then 1000000 towers/tanks
That helped tons, thx!
nl TheLegend-JAX
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TheLegend-JAX
Haven't seen level 5 blizzard for a long time :O
rs weasel_
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weasel_
lOL
no GamlaSonn
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GamlaSonn
@TheLegend-JAX
Please nerf.
nl ViVaLaVIV
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ViVaLaVIV
@TheLegend-JAX
i only see that in custom games tbh :(
md Sin-
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Sin-
cool to see strategy thread here instead of boring discussing gosus's life.
de p1Lz
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p1Lz
@Sin-
yeap!
de kuco87
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kuco87
Oh a strategy thread in sk-forum.
Lets bash it with stupid imba elf comments.

The main problem about this strategy isnt blizzard lvl3alone but the combination with choke-points.
Pitlord 3rd is worth a try if you get him to lvl3.

If you place your expansion on EI a little clever then you can use your TP to teleport into or behind his armee while he tries to use the choke point at the buttom of the mine...

Looks pretty cool and gosu...and is effective.
Thanks to the two people out of twenty who actualy tried to help ;)
ca -ArchAngel-
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no image
why should you care about blizzard? you can staff every dying bear while eating your way through the human army which can't move because of some units that cost 145 gold.
ca -ArchAngel-
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btw your nick is the best representation of your race. just attack move!

when you feel like it, staff a bear and press b occasionally.
@-ArchAngel-
hay meng why dont u become a progamer ?
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