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Grubby>Lyn AND Moon
13:00 CET - China Sky < Sweden SaSe on EI
13:25 CET - Korea, South Moon > Sweden SaSe on TS
14:00 CET - Korea, South Moon < Netherlands Grubby on GW
14:25 CET - Korea, South Lyn < Netherlands Grubby on TM
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grubby fanboy detected
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:D grubby fighting!
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I don't think you can say grubby >Moon+Lyn in view of the fact that was bo1 matches ...
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Im sure they wished they were as good as Grubby.
LOLOLOLOL
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Grubby > all, now go piss in your pants noobs
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Yes if i'm right he lost vs FLy 3/0
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rofl, Grubby fans flame Grubby haters for making a thread when Grubby loses, and now the second he notches up a decent win (still bo1 anyway :S), you lower yourself to the same level as the haters...
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"Never argue with a morron, he will drag you down to his level and will beat you by experience " : )
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"Grubby proves that he is coming back to the 3rd orc.(1st lyn,fly)"
WhO where?
WhO where?
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who > grubby/xiaot atm
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nice statistic Suxggles. Like GG ranking has been active since 2004 huh ?
in those game win percentages,u forgot a shitload of zotacs that contribute alot.
and talk about "successful",i think 2AWL, 2 EM,MGC completely >>> WCG,ESWC,Blizzcon,WSVG in term of skill,aint it ?
and ofc Grubby > WhO/Fly if your still living the past aka 2004/05 (wow 2 years is alot but hey,did WhO/Fly play competitively at that time ?)
in those game win percentages,u forgot a shitload of zotacs that contribute alot.
and talk about "successful",i think 2AWL, 2 EM,MGC completely >>> WCG,ESWC,Blizzcon,WSVG in term of skill,aint it ?
and ofc Grubby > WhO/Fly if your still living the past aka 2004/05 (wow 2 years is alot but hey,did WhO/Fly play competitively at that time ?)
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well grubby sucked last year like hell but anyway he was the second best orc after lyn if we look at the prizemoney he won
fly/focus/who/xiaot they are all pretty nice but they still don't win as much prizemoney as grubby does the only orc player who is really succesfull nowadays is lyn and then again comes grubby
but well who cares maybe fly and who prove me wrong and win more prizemoney than grubby wins this year ... in the upcoming final one of them is able to win some money xD
but if not .... go die fucking haterbitches ;D
and who also plays zotac.... but nobody flames him therefore ~~
fly/focus/who/xiaot they are all pretty nice but they still don't win as much prizemoney as grubby does the only orc player who is really succesfull nowadays is lyn and then again comes grubby
but well who cares maybe fly and who prove me wrong and win more prizemoney than grubby wins this year ... in the upcoming final one of them is able to win some money xD
but if not .... go die fucking haterbitches ;D
and who also plays zotac.... but nobody flames him therefore ~~
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"Tell me 1 player who's ranked @top10 since 2004 except Grubby."
Sky, Moon, ToD(Until last few months)?
"Zacard, Farseer, Elakeduck, Dayfly etc. are gone but Grubby is still on top"
In this point you argue that Grubby is better based on his current shape/form?
Grubby stays in top 10 since years, not just for a few weeks/months like Fly, Focus. Alot of players reaching and leaving top 10 again and again."
And in this point you argue Grubby is better based on his history/past.
So if we go by your methods of judgement, you have basically ruled out your own 2 best points by saying 1-a person is/is not better based on current form, and 2-a person is/is not better based on his past. Proving you are a typical bias Grubby fanboy.
You then go on to show worthless stats such as:
"Grubby -> most successful orc
Winning Percent @gosugamers.net 73 % 338 / 123
Lyn: -> very successful
Winning Percent @gosugamers.net 66 % 199 / 99" etc.
Completely disregarding the fact that Grubby picks up free wins in Zotac every week, and the majority of the time Grubby gets an easy matchup in team leagues(e.g WC3L Finals vs Mouz Fly waiting for Grubby @ LT, Grubby makes Lucifer vs Orc @ LT, and as a result Grubby vs Yumiko)
Lyn/Fly/WhO/FoCuS = happy to have whatever matchup is thrown at them, and know that the better player will win.
Grubby = weasels his way to an easy matchup at all costs.
Lyn > WhO > Fly > Grubby > FoCuS > xiaOT right now
Sky, Moon, ToD(Until last few months)?
"Zacard, Farseer, Elakeduck, Dayfly etc. are gone but Grubby is still on top"
In this point you argue that Grubby is better based on his current shape/form?
Grubby stays in top 10 since years, not just for a few weeks/months like Fly, Focus. Alot of players reaching and leaving top 10 again and again."
And in this point you argue Grubby is better based on his history/past.
So if we go by your methods of judgement, you have basically ruled out your own 2 best points by saying 1-a person is/is not better based on current form, and 2-a person is/is not better based on his past. Proving you are a typical bias Grubby fanboy.
You then go on to show worthless stats such as:
"Grubby -> most successful orc
Winning Percent @gosugamers.net 73 % 338 / 123
Lyn: -> very successful
Winning Percent @gosugamers.net 66 % 199 / 99" etc.
Completely disregarding the fact that Grubby picks up free wins in Zotac every week, and the majority of the time Grubby gets an easy matchup in team leagues(e.g WC3L Finals vs Mouz Fly waiting for Grubby @ LT, Grubby makes Lucifer vs Orc @ LT, and as a result Grubby vs Yumiko)
Lyn/Fly/WhO/FoCuS = happy to have whatever matchup is thrown at them, and know that the better player will win.
Grubby = weasels his way to an easy matchup at all costs.
Lyn > WhO > Fly > Grubby > FoCuS > xiaOT right now
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WhO also plays Zotac, yes, sometimes. However nobody is defending WhO using stats achieved in tournaments Zotac,.
I do not flame Grubby for playing in Zotac, I just disregard the opinions of people using stats obtained in tournaments like Zotac to justify someones status as "the best". Which of course occurs most commonly with bias Grubby fans, who need Grubbys long list of stats since 2004 to justify their incorrect bias beliefs that he is still on top, and is still the best orc in the world.
I do not flame Grubby for playing in Zotac, I just disregard the opinions of people using stats obtained in tournaments like Zotac to justify someones status as "the best". Which of course occurs most commonly with bias Grubby fans, who need Grubbys long list of stats since 2004 to justify their incorrect bias beliefs that he is still on top, and is still the best orc in the world.
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he is still on top lol
mb not top orc but one of the top
mb not top orc but one of the top
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haha, its because who fly etc, are "new"? what did grubby won since the competition ist THAT high nowdays? right NOTHING! think about it schnuggels, i hope u can think, but i doubt it.
grubby is playin for 10 years, who/fly for hm 2? and they are better now, with much better opponents than 5 years ago. THATs kinda sad, istn it? ur king of orcs, king of bo1 teamleagues.
grubby is playin for 10 years, who/fly for hm 2? and they are better now, with much better opponents than 5 years ago. THATs kinda sad, istn it? ur king of orcs, king of bo1 teamleagues.
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TheTormented come on ;)
Grubby = Best Wc3l Player of all times @1on1 AND 2on2
Esportsplayer of the year 2005, 2006
Most nominaded 7 times = Grubby
Most won 3 times = Grubby
He's the best 2on2 player of all times. He is able to play "random" and still kick ass.
"Completely disregarding the fact that Grubby picks up free wins in Zotac every week, and the majority of the time Grubby gets an easy matchup in team leagues(e.g WC3L Finals vs Mouz Fly waiting for Grubby @ LT, Grubby makes Lucifer vs Orc @ LT, and as a result Grubby vs Yumiko)"
rofl sorry :). Grubby is dominating since years @wc3l and u are mentioning the last few games against yumiko and fly. Your argumentation sux. "completely disregarding...." Players like Lyn, Moon etc. etc. played Incup too.
"and the majority of the time grubby gets an easy matchup in team leagues"
Grubby = Best Wc3l Player of all times @1on1 AND 2on2
Esportsplayer of the year 2005, 2006
Most nominaded 7 times = Grubby
Most won 3 times = Grubby
He's the best 2on2 player of all times. He is able to play "random" and still kick ass.
"Completely disregarding the fact that Grubby picks up free wins in Zotac every week, and the majority of the time Grubby gets an easy matchup in team leagues(e.g WC3L Finals vs Mouz Fly waiting for Grubby @ LT, Grubby makes Lucifer vs Orc @ LT, and as a result Grubby vs Yumiko)"
rofl sorry :). Grubby is dominating since years @wc3l and u are mentioning the last few games against yumiko and fly. Your argumentation sux. "completely disregarding...." Players like Lyn, Moon etc. etc. played Incup too.
"and the majority of the time grubby gets an easy matchup in team leagues"
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As the famous sayings goes: "When the cats away, the mice will play"
Sure Grubby use to be one of the best out there, maybe the best, but he is a mouse among the high quality level of competition now. Over the last couple of years other players have emerged to contest him for the title of "Orc King", such as WhO, FoCuS, Fly and mainly Lyn.
Now that the bigger competition (the Cats) has arrived, Grubby (The mouse) has seemingly gone into his shell and failed to win enough major titles for him to still be considered the best.
It's all good and well to dominate a lower quality league, but when the competition is much higher, stats/results can not be compared to when the competition was of lower quality...
Fact is Grubby WAS the "Orc King", but now the mantle has been passed to a more than worthy heir to the throne - Lyn.
IMHO - Lyn is a much better person to look up to than Grubby.
Why is it so hard for you to let go of the "Grubby Era".
Do you really find Lyn so unacceptable? This guy has been working like hell for years now, always living in the shadows of Grubby, being compared to Grubby, and even when reaching the same level as Grubby, is not respected as much as Grubby.
Lyn is a nice/funny/motivated/consistent/humble player, that is a student of the game and respects past/present legends such as Zacard/Grubby/Moon.
Its time for you fanboys to accept that Grubby is no longer the #1 man when it comes to Orc, and give Lyn the credit he deserves.
Sure Grubby use to be one of the best out there, maybe the best, but he is a mouse among the high quality level of competition now. Over the last couple of years other players have emerged to contest him for the title of "Orc King", such as WhO, FoCuS, Fly and mainly Lyn.
Now that the bigger competition (the Cats) has arrived, Grubby (The mouse) has seemingly gone into his shell and failed to win enough major titles for him to still be considered the best.
It's all good and well to dominate a lower quality league, but when the competition is much higher, stats/results can not be compared to when the competition was of lower quality...
Fact is Grubby WAS the "Orc King", but now the mantle has been passed to a more than worthy heir to the throne - Lyn.
IMHO - Lyn is a much better person to look up to than Grubby.
Why is it so hard for you to let go of the "Grubby Era".
Do you really find Lyn so unacceptable? This guy has been working like hell for years now, always living in the shadows of Grubby, being compared to Grubby, and even when reaching the same level as Grubby, is not respected as much as Grubby.
Lyn is a nice/funny/motivated/consistent/humble player, that is a student of the game and respects past/present legends such as Zacard/Grubby/Moon.
Its time for you fanboys to accept that Grubby is no longer the #1 man when it comes to Orc, and give Lyn the credit he deserves.
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you know schnuggles e-sports player of THE YEAR award, is not for the past?
it is about the recent results and events. your argumentation fails
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/dairy-fail.jpg
it is about the recent results and events. your argumentation fails
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/dairy-fail.jpg
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haha :D perfect, or never argue in sk-forums
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What about Zacard Sweet Tak3r Insomnia Deadman FatC HeMaN etc ? Imo i prefer the old school : )
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sase > sky! hahah sky is noobier than noob! and sase is proier than pro!! GO SASE!! POWER!
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All players can have there downtimes. Just look at grubby at the time after 4k did disband. Sky has a bad time atm but he will come back Strong soon :)
schlackenkvist your a retard btw
schlackenkvist your a retard btw