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Grubby -'pure fair player'
As a end of the Wc3l final, MYM got the first place and Mouz losed .
But there is something happened in the match that I think most of you don't know
So, here is some words from Fly100%
The whole stroy is too long ,so , I just get to the point
If you want to see the whole one ,please check
http://bbs.replays.net/message/130087/130087874.html
(make sure your chinese is good enough >< )
"The first 22 match is on Avalanche, and as you know, I lose connection in the match .
The lucky thing is the match have been already saved before I dropped.
Then , our manager Lie found Grubby is watching the replay of the SAVE GAME
and it happened BEFORE we load the save game .
( you can find many evidences in other player and reporter ）
Lie found the admin of WC3L , and Grubby's answer is ' I just watch only 2~3 mintues'.
And the admin told Lie he can not get any publishment on Gb...
I have been told this after the 22 game of LT, because Lie don't want to influence us.
I was shocked and I never thought Gb will do things like this .
They play really well on LT, and we have tried our best to fight .
Yes , we losed ，but I can not be reconciled.
Maybe next time , Grubby can win the match with a way more ' man '
When I started to play WC3,I often watch GB & Xiaot's replays ,and I got lots of help.
Even now ,Gb is still one the most great players in my heart.
But , I am sad.
( there is another suck things about Gb which happened in ROTK in Fly's stroy ,but I am tried to translate it ,and I am sure it will make some one unhappy.)
I am hurried to give this thread , so if there is some words or spell problems , forgave me T T
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here is what Fly and Lie said in the topic:
grubby watched rep after pausing game,and he was caught by mouz's manager Lie,it's said that many players and media staffs saw that too. then Lie appealed to the judge,and grubby admitted he had watched replay but only 2-3mins, then judge said he couldn't give mym players any punishment because the time that grubby watched was very short. Lie felt very disappointed, and at the same time SK's leader appealed to judge for punishment onto mym too,but their request was aslo denied, lyn and remind though that was unfair and they're very angry. maybe that's why SKs kept grouchy faces in awarding, mym]lucifier aslo felt a little unhappy after knowing that.(i really realized that lucifier seemed very unhappy and negative on the stage.but not sure if it caused by that case or he just felt he didn't play well.)
besides,fly said he had very admired grubby and though him as his idol,but today grubby made him sad.but however,he didn't like to complain too much about this issue.what he wants to do now is playing better in future.
grubby watched rep after pausing game,and he was caught by mouz's manager Lie,it's said that many players and media staffs saw that too. then Lie appealed to the judge,and grubby admitted he had watched replay but only 2-3mins, then judge said he couldn't give mym players any punishment because the time that grubby watched was very short. Lie felt very disappointed, and at the same time SK's leader appealed to judge for punishment onto mym too,but their request was aslo denied, lyn and remind though that was unfair and they're very angry. maybe that's why SKs kept grouchy faces in awarding, mym]lucifier aslo felt a little unhappy after knowing that.(i really realized that lucifier seemed very unhappy and negative on the stage.but not sure if it caused by that case or he just felt he didn't play well.)
besides,fly said he had very admired grubby and though him as his idol,but today grubby made him sad.but however,he didn't like to complain too much about this issue.what he wants to do now is playing better in future.
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Though flame on me is well expected, I do think a big discrepancy exists between watching your opponent's reps of some earlier matches in a tour and watching a saved game to be continued soon.
Even if Sky's behavior could not be justified, it does not make grubby watching a saved game look any better.
Even if Sky's behavior could not be justified, it does not make grubby watching a saved game look any better.
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Don't really understand why people compare this incident with gostop sky once, there is a HUGE difference in watching games that a player played vs a OTHER player that already happened or watching a game that has YET TO CONTINUE vs THE SAME PLAYER, basicly giving you information which you shouldnt know, tbh its a world of difference, now I don't know anything of this story whatsoever but if you trust on what is being told then ist pretty unfair behaviour if you ask me, thats just wrong and if this is what happened grubby knows that as well
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On the same page
http://bbs.replays.net/message/130087/130087874.html
sl.owenlie(mouz.Lie?): I can't stand this...very angry...really very angry...I remembered when that happened,the team leader of SK helped us to communnicate with admins,told them that GB cheated badly...I remembered how angry Lyn and Remind were when they heard of this...this is why...SK were all unhappy at the ceremony at the end...when Lucifer heard of this...he said he was also unhappy...such behaviour...is worthful for GB to become that happy after winning? Maybe many GB Fans will curse me...but I am really very angry...very angry...
http://bbs.replays.net/message/130087/130087874.html
sl.owenlie(mouz.Lie?): I can't stand this...very angry...really very angry...I remembered when that happened,the team leader of SK helped us to communnicate with admins,told them that GB cheated badly...I remembered how angry Lyn and Remind were when they heard of this...this is why...SK were all unhappy at the ceremony at the end...when Lucifer heard of this...he said he was also unhappy...such behaviour...is worthful for GB to become that happy after winning? Maybe many GB Fans will curse me...but I am really very angry...very angry...
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lie posted a reply in that thread
as she said, lucifer, remind, lyn and reis also showed their anger
you may know that from these picture
http://war3.sgamer.com/html/News_21075_2.html
http://war3.sgamer.com/html/News_21075_3.html
as she said, lucifer, remind, lyn and reis also showed their anger
you may know that from these picture
http://war3.sgamer.com/html/News_21075_2.html
http://war3.sgamer.com/html/News_21075_3.html
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lie posted a reply in that thread
as she said, lucifer, remind, lyn and reis also showed their anger
you may know that from these pictures
http://war3.sgamer.com/html/News_21075_2.html
http://war3.sgamer.com/html/News_21075_3.html
as she said, lucifer, remind, lyn and reis also showed their anger
you may know that from these pictures
http://war3.sgamer.com/html/News_21075_2.html
http://war3.sgamer.com/html/News_21075_3.html
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I want to hear grubby side of the story. Because we all know how managers and players get when they are losing or lose. Well If the rules doesn't say that you can't watch a replay of a saved then Grubby should walk. Whether you think it's fair or not that's your problem. For the most part of it, it is just trying to find an excuse for losing. Grubby watching a 2-3 minutes of a 22 minute game can not help him. IT doesn't tell him their location, their resource, how many food production heck he can't even predict what will happen. WC3.Ladder is hard to predict what might happen. Opponents might go beast master instead of KOTG. Make a huntress Hall but do not build huntress. Grubby watching the replay also doesn't change Mouseport 1v1 result or their previous 2v2 vs Hasu+Tod nor the game they lost on lost temple. It's only one incident out of +20 games played.
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ffs,do you really think he will watch the replay undr normal speed? And also how funny when you talking the rule thing,so if ESL was not so smart to predict someone will take advantage of no specific rule to avoid cheating during a pause of saved game,then it is acceptable? And we are not takling about how much Grubby gained from the behavior or what would turn out if Grubby didn't cheat,or even not about the angry loser,but about the behavior itself. Your answer seems to be okay,so maybe someday cutting the power will be a new strategy for War3,xD~
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2-3 minutes meaning ingame. When players watch replay to learn they do not speed up the replay since they have to see every single detail. Not like spectators who put speed on 8X to simply get to the final action and find out who the winner is.
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SK-gaming forum is the best forum on the internet. :D Did you guys know that Sase won both Dreamhack and ESWC Sweden final. That is awesome. Winning 2 tournament on the same day.
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Errrr ok? You want to be the retard then? Because I can just go on and continue being a retard if you want. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't mind. We need more retard on this forums we should start recruiting asap.
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Nice performance by Sase,hope him find a new team soon
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I know hes right but why didn't they do anything about it? Why does grubby or MYM walk with the championship. ESL made it seem as it wasn't a big deal. I honestly don't like the idea of cheaters winning but why didn't ESL do anything if it was a big deal
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You can check a dictionary for the meaning of "GRUBBY"!!!
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