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help with ud vs elf
look every time i play vs undead i have trouble...
at the late game (80 pop vs 80 pop ) 5/5 heroes vs 5/5 heroes it becomes imposible by the simple fact that the undead can run all he wants ( DK AURA ) and mass focus heroes
the fight happens like that ->
Undead sees the elf army
undead coil nova the dh
undead runs
undead coil nova the dh
dh dies
repeat process to the panda..
then it becomes army vs army +heroes
dont tell me to buy invul/AM potion /staff because i do buy them and it doesnt help me at all , when i use one of the items the undead just run untill the item effect goes off
undead NEVER fights the elf until you lose both of ur heroes (yea mass wisps harass the whole game , DK aura gives such an adv at map control)
i am a lvl 42 player at europe..
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hi russian , mb if you stop maphack you will be better?
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Agree with Contrail. Like vs Human with 2 exp. and mass tanks, game is over for nelf at some point.
What you could do is play Darkranger or Pitlord and expo a lot.
Usually Undead heros (at least dk) have higher lvl than nelf heros. Actually i played some nelf but don't remember many games in which i had a 5/5 vs 5/5 situation probably because undead is a "late game" race with heros.
What you could do is play Darkranger or Pitlord and expo a lot.
Usually Undead heros (at least dk) have higher lvl than nelf heros. Actually i played some nelf but don't remember many games in which i had a 5/5 vs 5/5 situation probably because undead is a "late game" race with heros.
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Ask Sase how to make more dryads.
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undead coil nova the dh
-hi manaburn
undead runs
-hi dryads
repeat process to the panda..
-hi manaburn AND rejuv
maybe if you stopped playing with 1 hand in your pocket and the other hand on the A button you would see the difference.
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undead runs
-hi dryads
repeat process to the panda..
-hi manaburn AND rejuv
maybe if you stopped playing with 1 hand in your pocket and the other hand on the A button you would see the difference.
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play orc
try single pitlord with dryads - makes nuking impossible
--> ud without nuke is like a car without tires
use potions, after coil/nova --> potion to refill your hero (or reju)
btw i'm ud and have also some kind of disadvantage in the mid game, idk if this is usual for the ud-nelf mu, try to use your elfvantage
try single pitlord with dryads - makes nuking impossible
--> ud without nuke is like a car without tires
use potions, after coil/nova --> potion to refill your hero (or reju)
btw i'm ud and have also some kind of disadvantage in the mid game, idk if this is usual for the ud-nelf mu, try to use your elfvantage
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Typical Elf......Maybe use anti-magic potion and then go to mana burn his heroes hm ? Maybe get a fucking staff of tp and when he nukes your DH , just staff him with Panda and then port with the Staff ? If he doesn`t really fight , then it means that you have crept the whole map and if his heroes are 5/5 that means that u had been losing army as shit ?Imagine how many tons of dryads you must had lost when 1 dryad gives 30 exp ?!
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ok maybe it isnt 5/5 more like 5/3
(ffs getting the DK to 5 is fucking easy then get a lich as 2nd)
you dont seem to understand , i dont lose a SINGLE dryad the whole game more like wisps and the undead creeping while harassing
Maybe use anti-magic potion and then go to mana burn his heroes hm ?
dude i said this several times already THE DH FUCKING CANT THERES SOMETHING CALLED UNDEAD AURA THE MOTHER FUCKER RUNS LIKE A FORMULA 1 RUNNER
(ffs getting the DK to 5 is fucking easy then get a lich as 2nd)
you dont seem to understand , i dont lose a SINGLE dryad the whole game more like wisps and the undead creeping while harassing
Maybe use anti-magic potion and then go to mana burn his heroes hm ?
dude i said this several times already THE DH FUCKING CANT THERES SOMETHING CALLED UNDEAD AURA THE MOTHER FUCKER RUNS LIKE A FORMULA 1 RUNNER
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Then use pot of invisibility and get nearby him and then mana burn or fucking THINK ABOUT SOMETHING and 5/5 and 5/3 makes great diffrence tbh.If your DH is lvl 5 then u must have no problems with this nuke.I can`t really understand how he can creep and harass on small maps? Maybe put some wisps around the map?If his gargs are busy harassing then he must be creeping with 1(2) heroes and a couple of ghouls.Mr.Panda and Mr.DH will blow them away easily...less cry more play
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Guys i see what you are telling me but i already know that DH lvl 5 / Panda lvl 5 / Mass dryads rape the shit out of undead in a fight
what you guys dont seem to understand is that there is no way i can force a fight he just keeps running & nuking
what you guys dont seem to understand is that there is no way i can force a fight he just keeps running & nuking
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thx bringer wc3l player only decent answer so far from a wc3l player
(fury sux i am 10-2 vs that noob on ladder still i cant beat good undeads)
(fury sux i am 10-2 vs that noob on ladder still i cant beat good undeads)
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did you know? dh lvl 5 dies in 2 coils and 1 nova
also did you know that you can use it at least 10 times in a battle
also did you know that you can use it at least 10 times in a battle
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