look every time i play vs undead i have trouble...
at the late game (80 pop vs 80 pop ) 5/5 heroes vs 5/5 heroes it becomes imposible by the simple fact that the undead can run all he wants ( DK AURA ) and mass focus heroes
the fight happens like that ->
Undead sees the elf army
undead coil nova the dh
undead runs
undead coil nova the dh
dh dies
repeat process to the panda..
then it becomes army vs army +heroes
dont tell me to buy invul/AM potion /staff because i do buy them and it doesnt help me at all , when i use one of the items the undead just run untill the item effect goes off
undead NEVER fights the elf until you lose both of ur heroes (yea mass wisps harass the whole game , DK aura gives such an adv at map control)
i am a lvl 42 player at europe..
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+4 thumbs 
i guess 1-2 bears for some reju would help ;x
+3 thumbs
hi russian , mb if you stop maphack you will be better?
-1 thumbs
If you get to equal pop and hero levels you have lost UNLESS you play Moon strats and mass expo while base raiding.
If UD get to 5/5 on a small map you have lost and have played bad to allow them to creep so much.
If UD get to 5/5 on a small map you have lost and have played bad to allow them to creep so much.
-2 thumbs
Agree with Contrail. Like vs Human with 2 exp. and mass tanks, game is over for nelf at some point.
What you could do is play Darkranger or Pitlord and expo a lot.
Usually Undead heros (at least dk) have higher lvl than nelf heros. Actually i played some nelf but don't remember many games in which i had a 5/5 vs 5/5 situation probably because undead is a "late game" race with heros.
What you could do is play Darkranger or Pitlord and expo a lot.
Usually Undead heros (at least dk) have higher lvl than nelf heros. Actually i played some nelf but don't remember many games in which i had a 5/5 vs 5/5 situation probably because undead is a "late game" race with heros.
+7 thumbs
make more dryads
+10 thumbs
make more dryads
+4 thumbs
Rejuv
Anti-magic potion
Healing potion
Invulnerability potion
Invisibility potion
staff of preservation
staff of teleportation
town portal.
MANABURN ??
Anti-magic potion
Healing potion
Invulnerability potion
Invisibility potion
staff of preservation
staff of teleportation
town portal.
MANABURN ??
+2 thumbs
make more dryads
+3 thumbs
Ask Sase how to make more dryads.
+0 thumbs
FunPlayer , nothing more to add.
+1 thumbs
probably u played vs hasu
+14 thumbs
Undead sees the elf army
undead coil nova the dh
undead runs
undead coil nova the dh
dh dies
There is a problem here, "dh dies" I dont understand this part :o
undead coil nova the dh
undead runs
undead coil nova the dh
dh dies
There is a problem here, "dh dies" I dont understand this part :o
+2 thumbs
lol :DDDD I rofled at this one :DD
"There is a problem here, "dh dies" I dont understand this part :o"
"There is a problem here, "dh dies" I dont understand this part :o"
+3 thumbs
+1 for you my friend.
+1 thumbs
DH can't die. :p
+1 thumbs
oh god that one made my day :D
+0 thumbs
Funny :) made my day too :))
+1 thumbs
undead coil nova the dh
-hi manaburn
undead runs
-hi dryads
repeat process to the panda..
-hi manaburn AND rejuv
maybe if you stopped playing with 1 hand in your pocket and the other hand on the A button you would see the difference.
-hi manaburn
undead runs
-hi dryads
repeat process to the panda..
-hi manaburn AND rejuv
maybe if you stopped playing with 1 hand in your pocket and the other hand on the A button you would see the difference.
+3 thumbs
Typical Elf......Maybe use anti-magic potion and then go to mana burn his heroes hm ? Maybe get a fucking staff of tp and when he nukes your DH , just staff him with Panda and then port with the Staff ? If he doesn`t really fight , then it means that you have crept the whole map and if his heroes are 5/5 that means that u had been losing army as shit ?Imagine how many tons of dryads you must had lost when 1 dryad gives 30 exp ?!
-2 thumbs
ok maybe it isnt 5/5 more like 5/3
(ffs getting the DK to 5 is fucking easy then get a lich as 2nd)
you dont seem to understand , i dont lose a SINGLE dryad the whole game more like wisps and the undead creeping while harassing
Maybe use anti-magic potion and then go to mana burn his heroes hm ?
dude i said this several times already THE DH FUCKING CANT THERES SOMETHING CALLED UNDEAD AURA THE MOTHER FUCKER RUNS LIKE A FORMULA 1 RUNNER
(ffs getting the DK to 5 is fucking easy then get a lich as 2nd)
you dont seem to understand , i dont lose a SINGLE dryad the whole game more like wisps and the undead creeping while harassing
Maybe use anti-magic potion and then go to mana burn his heroes hm ?
dude i said this several times already THE DH FUCKING CANT THERES SOMETHING CALLED UNDEAD AURA THE MOTHER FUCKER RUNS LIKE A FORMULA 1 RUNNER
+2 thumbs
Then use pot of invisibility and get nearby him and then mana burn or fucking THINK ABOUT SOMETHING and 5/5 and 5/3 makes great diffrence tbh.If your DH is lvl 5 then u must have no problems with this nuke.I can`t really understand how he can creep and harass on small maps? Maybe put some wisps around the map?If his gargs are busy harassing then he must be creeping with 1(2) heroes and a couple of ghouls.Mr.Panda and Mr.DH will blow them away easily...less cry more play
+5 thumbs
yeah the dh is a very slow hero btw
-2 thumbs
would use like some wisps to take the mana out?
-2 thumbs
Level 42 in Europe.. and losing to anyone as elf hmmmm
+0 thumbs
play orc
try single pitlord with dryads - makes nuking impossible
--> ud without nuke is like a car without tires
use potions, after coil/nova --> potion to refill your hero (or reju)
btw i'm ud and have also some kind of disadvantage in the mid game, idk if this is usual for the ud-nelf mu, try to use your elfvantage
try single pitlord with dryads - makes nuking impossible
--> ud without nuke is like a car without tires
use potions, after coil/nova --> potion to refill your hero (or reju)
btw i'm ud and have also some kind of disadvantage in the mid game, idk if this is usual for the ud-nelf mu, try to use your elfvantage
+3 thumbs
why not go no hero at all then? still better than going pitlord :D
+1 thumbs
i lol'd
+2 thumbs
elf losing shape?
+4 thumbs
lvl 5 panda > ud (even with scrolls)
-1 thumbs
Go warden & have fun with chasing & blinking
-1 thumbs
Guys i see what you are telling me but i already know that DH lvl 5 / Panda lvl 5 / Mass dryads rape the shit out of undead in a fight
what you guys dont seem to understand is that there is no way i can force a fight he just keeps running & nuking
what you guys dont seem to understand is that there is no way i can force a fight he just keeps running & nuking
+0 thumbs
b1rd -.-
+2 thumbs
Night Elf vs Orc 346 361 49%
Night Elf vs Human 252 269 48%
what?
Night Elf vs Human 252 269 48%
what?
+3 thumbs
and any Human who doesn't have 60% vs elf in ladder just sucks or is too mannered to play the real shit.
-1 thumbs
cause Orcs won 100% vs Undead. Sorry, hypnoob. Real men don't whine. Real men don't play Orc.
+0 thumbs
like we all know, the NE race is so manly. Archers, hunts, dryads, warden, potm ... ROOOOAR
go perform #elfsisters
go perform #elfsisters
+8 thumbs
Haha if you think dk gets to 5 too easy, then brace yourself and prepare some heavy aspirin for next patch when justice will be done :D
+1 thumbs
try to play warden mby? fast lvl 3 kills everything in its way -.-
+0 thumbs
Blink + FoK / SS, fuck yeah.
+0 thumbs
Beastmaster, Dryad, Mass expand like Creo used to do? I don't play elf.
+3 thumbs
omg but most i hate that fucking BM, WTF about that lvl 3 boar splash joke ?
+3 thumbs
even switching to fiends only helps you last longer.I'd say that BM+expos strat is perfect.You gotta play solid though,the game will be long.Sometimes elves just need lv6 BM to stampede their way to the win.
-1 thumbs
Arceus watched Moon vs Lucifer and thinks BM is the perfect strategy!
+1 thumbs
Moon has played this shit for years and 99% of it turn out to be a Chim rape or stampeded buildings
Same for this NSL match.Lucifer just played incrediblely that game but 6 expos still > 2 and at the end Chims rape as usual.
Yes this strat is perfect !
Same for this NSL match.Lucifer just played incrediblely that game but 6 expos still > 2 and at the end Chims rape as usual.
Yes this strat is perfect !
-2 thumbs
he didn't play it for a year in important games vs Ud. It's a good strat vs gargs, but assuming equal skill, fiend switch wins vs it.
+2 thumbs
ye vs Fov,Luci,ReiGn & some wc3l opponents are not important matches right ?
with fiends you cant even harass effectively so elf expos so easily.I still prefer the good ol gargs
with fiends you cant even harass effectively so elf expos so easily.I still prefer the good ol gargs
-1 thumbs
mb you should stop playing with one hand and use warden power
+0 thumbs
omg you cant a-move ? cry more
+0 thumbs
learn me how to hit and run vs dryads
learn me how to not get my dk/lich manaburned
and i will learn you how to get freewin vs ud.
learn me how to not get my dk/lich manaburned
and i will learn you how to get freewin vs ud.
-2 thumbs
did you know? dh lvl 5 dies in 2 coils and 1 nova
also did you know that you can use it at least 10 times in a battle
also did you know that you can use it at least 10 times in a battle
+0 thumbs
superman level 5 has 800 hp.
Assuming level 3 coil and level 2 nova.
(2*300 + 200) *70% = 560
560 > 800?
Well I didn't expect much more from a noobelf.
Btw staff and reju solves.
Assuming level 3 coil and level 2 nova.
(2*300 + 200) *70% = 560
560 > 800?
Well I didn't expect much more from a noobelf.
Btw staff and reju solves.
-2 thumbs
add in -5 armor, slowed movement speed due to nova/wyrms, mass ranged attacks...
and you come with a dispellable over-time heal and an item that leaves the 2nd hero and the rest of the army alone?
Get highe
and you come with a dispellable over-time heal and an item that leaves the 2nd hero and the rest of the army alone?
Get highe