AndreiFTW



Normal

undead.

KraMERC



Elite

Xlord pulled a "wyrm."

D4L-22



Normal

online

susii74



Elite

not rly

FunPlayer



Pro

imba. nerf elf.

Thorzain



Old School

moon playing in the middle of the night mb 4 @ night, and online.

FunPlayer



Pro

@Thorzain
Moon doesn't sleep, he waits.
Moon doesn't play online, he's always right next to his opponent. Sometimes even inside of his opponent's PC.
And finally, if something is able to beat Moon, it's gotta be imbalanced. Undead vs elf is the most imba shit we've ever seen.

Groni



Old School

i dont think moon is playing worse at 4 am

Knutzi-



Elite

undead.. and moon was saving strats

Moli



Elite

hmpffffffffffffffffffff moska......

WC3L Season XIII / Undead 21-16 Elf
Kode 5 Korea Qualifier / Undead 5-8 Elf
AWL Season 3 Undead / 7-4 Elf

(don't count the ELF 8-1 UD in SEC and the UD 10-0 ELF in EM ;))

Just some examples that it isn't such a imba matchup as most people think.....

weasel_



Normal

ud > elf
when moon lose vs susira and xlord
what other elfs can do vs luciefer and fov ...

KraMERC



Elite

beat them? sai > fov etc?

KraMERC



Elite

beat them? sai > fov etc?

-ArchAngel-



Normal

for once in your life you make a good, sensible statement. Thumb up.

Contrail1



Pro

I play NE and have winning ratio vs all races ! (best vs ORC) but it is under 20% vs UD !

imba! Traditionally i think only Moon has really dominated NE. Obviously UD have a small advantage but it's not as bad as many other matchups.

senar



Pro

@Thorzain
"elf is the most imba shit we've ever seen."

FunPlayer said it !

Yag-Nosyt



Newbie

Fucking crap you write! I think all agree that nelf vs ud is at least balanced and maps change advantage to nelf or ud. nelf vs orc is obviously imbalanced although even without a patch it's getting better. Nelf vs HUman is a fucking joke. It depends on player. Human can totally own nelf with tower tanks or tr or lose hard. human vs nelf is fucking balanced and ofc depends on maps.
If some of you tards would spend half of their time they are writing imba comments on every site, spend on playing SOME games with nelf and find out that they will get owned so hard and all crap they write is totally wrong haha. ANd now you can thumb me down hard! at least elfs will agree and im not elf tbh.

OwnageNe



Old School

lamer sucker

Siever



Normal

Xlord is really great these days

TowerPowerNerf



Normal

Impressive. I guess Xlord is the best european undead player by know.

Yag-Nosyt



Newbie

@TowerPowerNerf
yes, after fury.

Cleese



Elite

His Ud vs Elf is really awesome. Must be very frusttrating to get harrassed all the time with gargs and when the wyrm comes, its over :/

Groni



Old School

his mirror is top aswell

kuco87



Pro

Since Nelf has no counter to Garg/Wyrm I tend to go Sinlge-Goblin-Alchi vs that.

It can attack air (good vs Gargs)

Rage is good to hunt down DK etc.

The Bomb is nice vs Mass Gargs (Big Range, Effects many Units, can not be disspelled,good for Air vs Air).

Creep fast with AoWs. Go T3 very fast to get a shitload of XP by the single-hero-exp-bonus.

Manage to get lvl6 and start to sell his wyrms.

I know it sounds nooby, stupid etc, but for me it works quite well.

Necros_



Newbie

so much towers Xlord made on EI ..

RotterdaM



Very Old School

remind played orc

Wolvi-



Elite

@Necros_
human does more towers, those towers actually saved xlords kiddieass :o

KaZi_-



Elite

remind 0 - 1 protois

senar



Pro

@KaZi_-
remind massed archers and talons vs ud and died with 1000 gold, n1

PUPPY



Pro

@KaZi_-
Yup, go headhunters and witchdoctors against undead : gogo

and freaking die at 5th minute.

-ArchAngel-



Normal

@KaZi_-
so why dont you try mass talons or mass chimaera against human?
or mass T3 huntress vs undead?
im sure these strategies are as "working" as tc stomp mass hh+thiner vs undead.

oh wait...

scorpiasss



Newbie

FunPlayer ,your strats works only vs lamez ( 30 level 1000 games players)
Its so stupid to use stomp vs elf and HH

FunPlayer



Pro

@scorpiasss
l2read. I said orc vs undead. But ofc Orc has no need to play anything else than blade grunt/raider vs undead.

Claddy



Elite

xlord played like a gay on echo, moon cant attack the 8 towers at xlords expo and what does xlord do? he waits in his base until moon is kinda asleep or so.
also it seemed pretty obvious moon had crappy ping. he missed with silence and didnt staff his panda in the end, not moonlike.
xlord best euro ud? my ass. That would be happy, by far.

DragoniZer



Newbie

TowerPowerNerf XlorD is a good player no question but its a very hard statement the XlorD is the best european player yet!

Top 3 of the European Wc3 players

#1 mouz.ToD
#2 MYM]Grubby/mouz.Happy
#3 mouz.Hasuobs

-ArchAngel-



Normal

@scorpiasss
"But ofc Orc has no need to play anything else than blade grunt/raider vs undead."

how ironic is that coming from an elf player who (like all of their kind) masses 1 or 2 of the same units over and over again against every race every strat.

elf vs human:

riflecaster? bear dryad.
breaker caster? bear dryad.
breaker mortar? bear dryad.
gryphon mortar? bear dryad.
Knight caster? bear dryad.
innerfire knight mortar? bear dryad.

elf vs undead:
ghoul garg? bear dryad.
ghoul wyrm? bear dryad.
fiend destroyer? bear dryad.
fiend abomination? bear dryad.
abomination meatwagon? bear dryad.
fiend destroyer abomination? bear dryad.

elf vs orc:

Any combination of grunt/raider/headhunter/walker/kodo/demolisher?
mass talons OR.......bear dryad.

elf vs elf:

Any combination of.....bear dryad? bear dryad.

funplayer, please stfu, stop making a clown out of yourself and continue massing your bear dryads.

Arceus



Normal

@Claddy
agreed,fbs should stop worshippin xlord,won Moon with gaystyle doesnt say a lot
eu top uds:
1.elfittaja
2.happy
3.dowaq
4.hasu
5.xlord

neverplayorc1



Elite

@DragoniZer
you dont mention hot? he is much better than hasu

scorpiasss



Newbie

hot/titan ,etc