WC3L sux for Chinese team...PGL,CEG,SW,IEF are much better...

logic of loser never sounds reasonable

why are retarded newsposters allowed to "manage" decent teams?

i agree with wNv prolly winning alot of matches on lan, which they lose online, but i understand if some euopean teams are pissed, because vs teams like wNv you cant win, if you win, its "with this delay we cant win", and if you lose you are the one who even loses vs someone who has 2 sec delay

and its unacceptable if players do not attend cw's on a regular base, thats nothing about nationality or lag, thats simply unfair, if you dont care about a league, then leave it...

wNv management is top.....................NOT!!

rather corrupt.

there are some some "rumors" floating around about wNv and their management....

How much you paid to wNv so that they give you this spot Vbadgirl ? Or just someone there has a really fucked up mind.

i wonder why its impossible for wnv players to actually win a best of three series, while players like ToD, Fly100% or the whole WE show pretty impressive results online?

instead of being picky and trying to find the perfect host they just play!

Cause WE always have better host beacuse of Replays.Net...They just know more people...by the way,Fly sux a little online too...XiaoT said once that he just hates to play online.

when so much is in stake and a qualification depends on it you want to have a fair chance at it.

If qualification was so important then why didnt you have hosts set up ready that were suitable for your players?

because chinese net is not stable. TH000 had 0.5 on hulk when we played last time (vs egp) and when we played vs mtw, sai found it impossible to play on. (TH and sai are same bootcamp with same net)
One day the host can be good and then next day it can be bad. You can never know which way it's going to be even if we used same host. it's a matter of luck. . I did got the best host for them which was HULK who had the lowest ping for them and they seemed very happy with but things don't always go like you plan to.
I hope you understand that.

"One day the host can be good and then next day it can be bad. You can never know which way it's going to be even if we used same host. it's a matter of luck"

if thats the case with your team, why are you even competing in a ONLINE competition. You think situations like that would not occur during the regular season if you had qualified? Or would it somehow not matter as much then?

When you play in a online league vs clans and players from all over the world, you need to accept your not going to get lan conditions when playing. All top clans have accepted that, and I suggest you do the same if you want to be a top clan and stop bitching, or don't even participate in the first place.

there were other circumstances and we auto qualified for last season. The fact they have changed their training base didn't help either.
And we still decided to continue to play in it wc3l despite all the problems we've encountered instead of just dropping out. Even if the net was bad and many times unplayable we did our best.

"you need to accept your not going to get lan conditions when playing. "
I have answered this before and I said, they dont expect 0 lag but they expect to be able to play decent (0.5-1.5). playing with over 2 second lag it might not matter when you play vs some newbs but often in high rated games vs top players even the slightest mistake can totally change the course of a game around.

Sai refused to play on 1sec lag btw, it was our 3rd host out of the 6 we tested, so I guess he expects 0 ping after all. :p

this is going nowhere now. What I had to say i did. Sorry it was frustrating (ask rotti and he will tell you what frustration actually means, since last time he tested 14-15 hosts vs colorful) but it was nothing else we could do. gl in wc3l.

because Hotlips can find good host!
mouz is European team and manager do best!!!

King said once that they went to the office of GamesTV (which has the best internet) to play WC3L last season...and WE just quited NGL because of internet...

WE cant go to GamesTV office to play everytime right ? afaik WE live & play in a apartment.
wNv is a big organization and I dont think that they cannot get a connection as good as WE's.

btw WE did not quit NGL cuz of inet,at that time they stil had 4 Korean and could 4-0 everyteam.They didnt like the way NGL organize the match and some badmanner (hi Naniwa),and they needed to focus on wc3l.

because WE training camp is not in beijing as far as know. beijing's net is not the best either. Best net is in shanghai I think since it's a highly comercial area with a lot of business offices.
And wNv knows net is important if a better connection would have been available they would get it.

lol.which city does tod live in China?

First of all, why are you pasting irc logs, shouldn't matters like this be discussed in private? Also how come e-superstars have troubles finding hosts? Isn't your friendslist full of people willing to do it? And yeah, lol @ argumenting :P