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I know, wrong forum, but let me risk this :
While showering and masturbating I had this great idea about Undead vs Orc.
WE.Ted using master banshees from time to time...3rd Hero Tinker.
So what about using Alchemist with healing spray as a 3rd hero to keep the group of banshees alive till they`ve done their job. They spray also heals enemies units but doesnt really matter if you steal the units anyway. Second skill acid bomb (also very nice for Undead).

What about that ?
This is no troll.


 

I just realized that every ud top player has less than 50% winpercentage in ud vs orc (sk-gaming stats) except Ted (52%). That's just sad. Even former champions like lucifer, fov and sweet had below 50%. And that for 5 years in a row. Poor undead!

 

Because every orc that has brain (rare to see) will get TC as 3rd hero (if he has SH as 2nd) with warstomp to rupt banshees and he will just hex the Alchemist.If he has 2nd TC, he will get SH.

 

Cant
Possess
Blademaster

 

partner0 wrote:
Cant
Possess
Blademaster


^

 

partner0 wrote:
Cant
Possess
Blademaster

you win ;D

hostilepulse wrote:
Because every orc that has brain (rare to see) will get TC as 3rd hero (if he has SH as 2nd) with warstomp to rupt banshees and he will just hex the Alchemist.If he has 2nd TC, he will get SH.
or dr x]

 

Yeah, the problem is not the shees surviving, it's the possess getting canceled.

 

Channelled hero spells vs Orc = not happening.

 

Well, it's not going to work well on pro level but you can use it on lower level.

 

The best thing to do is to Just spread out the Banshees so that TC cant stomp them all at once. Other than that I think this Banshee strategy works really well (Needs some work on just as the talon strategy when it was new) vs the standard Orc cookie cutter shit. But BM still needs a NERF

 

NightEnd beat Grubby with the banshee strat once, but I doubt it will happen again

You can use the banshee strat in ladder....until you get high level and start playing often vs same orcs

 

pretty sure u can ensnare banshees also to interrupt

 

partner0 wrote:
Cant
Possess
Blademaster

You can posses his worker and make bm

 

InsuR wrote:
pretty sure u can ensnare banshees also to interrupt


Nope

 

LegendaryIdiot wrote:
InsuR wrote:
pretty sure u can ensnare banshees also to interrupt


Nope


actually yes

 

Fabozi wrote:
partner0 wrote:
Cant
Possess
Blademaster

You can posses his worker and make bm

 

FunPlayer wrote:
LegendaryIdiot wrote:
InsuR wrote:
pretty sure u can ensnare banshees also to interrupt


Nope


actually yes


Actually no. Make a custom game and look for yourself. And im not intending that Raiders arent imba (because they are) but im just stating facts. Ppl should start exploring a bit more with the banshee strat. I think it could be like one of those wonder strats like the talon strat once were back in the days

 

LegendaryIdiot wrote:
Actually no. Make a custom game and look for yourself. And im not intending that Raiders arent imba (because they are) but im just stating facts. Ppl should start exploring a bit more with the banshee strat. I think it could be like one of those wonder strats like the talon strat once were back in the days


I asked my good friend Mojo Stormstout and he said:

Possession Counters
Posession is a channeling spell so interrupt it. Read more. Try to remove the Mana of the Banshees so they don't have enough Mana to cast Possession.

You can interrupt this spell with spells such as:
Orcs: Raider - Ensnare

So unless you get me a series of screenshots showing otherwise, you're wrong. I can't bother to test it or watch a replay.

 

FunPlayer wrote:
LegendaryIdiot wrote:
Actually no. Make a custom game and look for yourself. And im not intending that Raiders arent imba (because they are) but im just stating facts. Ppl should start exploring a bit more with the banshee strat. I think it could be like one of those wonder strats like the talon strat once were back in the days


I asked my good friend Mojo Stormstout and he said:

Possession Counters
Posession is a channeling spell so interrupt it. Read more. Try to remove the Mana of the Banshees so they don't have enough Mana to cast Possession.

You can interrupt this spell with spells such as:
Orcs: Raider - Ensnare

So unless you get me a series of screenshots showing otherwise, you're wrong. I can't bother to test it or watch a replay.


Yea our good friend mojo:

"Druid of the Talon (Unarmored)
These guys are very easily killed. It shouldn't be hard. Just rush them with pretty much anything."

or

"The Blademaster's greatest advantage is Mirror Image, which confuses the enemy and focuses their attention on fake copies of the Blademaster"

Neway, I'd think ensare cancels possession too...

 

pretty sure ensnare interrupts possession, tried a ladder game with like 15 banshees, even tho he prob oculd interrupt with orb form BM and hex a few, the orc ensnared my banshees and sure as hell looked liek it interrupted, otherwise strange how he managed to interrupt 12 out of 15 banshees(maybe 4 of those were killed and interrupted that way) without ensnare.

 

Anyways no matter what it is obv not hard to counter if you know your enemy is going it.

Where as you always know what the fuck orc is going to do yet you are always the underdog.

 

"Possession Counters
Posession is a channeling spell so interrupt it. Read more. Try to remove the Mana of the Banshees so they don't have enough Mana to cast Possession."

I seriously lol'd in real life at the mana part of that.

 

Thread
FAILED
GTFO

 

for once in my life I actually agree with MLW.
Mass banshee with posess vs orc?
What are you... Some sort of retard?

 

ted is using this strat on certain maps when orc does his t3 tech with headhunters and kodos. not too many raider involved.

Watch this f.e. if you can watch 1.23 somehow.Otherwise just check the parser.
http://www.esl.eu/eu/wc3l/season15_playdowns/download/13406795/


 


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