hi UD just won a tournament
so i guess it s safe to conclude that UD is not weak
it s just that most players suck at it
in u r face ud whiners

^ or its just that TeD is very good vs Orc. I say congrats to TeD for winning MGC.
and i say : stfu kume_v

bullshit so now the UDs are gonna start saying
Ted doesn t count
he is the 6th race
it doesnt matter what he win
stop copying noobelves with their moon is imba NE is underpowered and come out of denial
UD is OK u just need to L2P

I assume you play orc or elf.

What you just said kind of proved you are stupid and suck.

you should l2p another race, why dont you play undead then? and see how much % you get against orcs playing BM, (altho some cant micro for shit so im sure youd win atleast 40% on noob level)

TeD ll change that ratio in related to other races!!!!!
who leads? orc? elf? o0

u assumed wrong
if u would have checked my profile you would have found a link to my acc on northrend (funny enough named kume_V)
i am primarily a human player but later on went exploring all races (yes i got both jaina and ilidan icons)
from my (i persume) much greater experience (they yours) in all races i can tell u this:
1. u suck since u don t even dare to link u r wc3 acc in ur profile
2. u probably play UD and suck with it (lol)
3. UD is very strong vs NE
4. UD is very strong vs Human
5. UD is a bit weak against orc but nothing some imbalanced base build won t solve
6. Human is the worst race simply because as i stated before the fact they have to rely on towers and base raids with tanks proves their units are shit
7. i don t use towers i am speaking about very high lvl of play
8. i could probably beat u 1v1 with evry race against u r UD incouding in UD mirror even though i have little practice in solo besides with humans
9. even on a lvl a bit above noob i can muster more than 40% so u are right about me beeing able to win more then 40% games against noobs (congrats this is 1 true statement in ur post)
10. try frost armor it s good against BM (just a suggestion)

hahaha oh dude :D

"ud is very strong against ne, ud is very strong against human and just a bit weak against orc" by that logic Undead is the best race ingame, if you believe that then I dont know what, cause you got 90% of the community(maybe even 99%) against you.

and no I play orc when I play, and still havent lost to either undead or human.

why I play orc? started playing orc when zacard etc started owning with bm, I dont play alot so I play orc cause I dont have to train anything special, always go bm, sh(tc sometimes) grunt, raider and walkers.(yes I can build a bat or two if necessary)

and yes I think orc is fucking overpowered, 10 times easier to play then any other race because of the fact that infi stated in interview.

and sometimes I can win by luck when my BM 3 crits in a row on enemie hero

zolbög.......for the love of god shut the fuck up, you're annoying and dumb.

:)

guess it hurts when someone speak the truth of orc ;P

"and no I play orc when I play, and still havent lost to either undead or human."
don t know what exactly u are on but it is seriously bad for u

evryone with iq>75.5 knows that a statement (even if made by an almighty gosu god of wc3)
that he never lost to 2 out of 4 races in the game is incredibly stupid and not true
moreover since human is (togetther with NE) probably the hardest MU for an orc

u are full of shit and should fuck off this forum cause u suck
u realy do
u are acting like u are actualy good and i must say i am 99% sure that u are bad
very bad
and about u r training let me tell u this
if u train wc3 that means u play on professional or at least semi-professional level
and u don t so stfu about how u don t have to "train" with orc to win

if u are not a professional playing a game is considered a hobby not "training"
have u ever heard anyone say that he s going to "train" tennis when he goes to play some matches for recreation 2 times a week?

and no i don t have 90% let alone 99% of the comunity against me
i only have noobs like u against me

well I didnt say I play much, maybe played 20-25 matches this year and out of those I havent lost to human or undead = truth

eh in the matter of you thinking undead is the best race, yes you got 90% of the community against you.

no I dont train wc3, I just play wc3, when I do I play orc.

not really, I'm probably the most unsensetive player there is for those comments, the days i was worring about balance are far behind. I'm man enough to say blademaster is imbalanced, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that, but the rest what you say is complete trash and you know it too, just annoying rubbish.

Orc is like this, blade is imba with items, without its quite weak, orc is weak the moments before t2 units roll out, orc is too strong the moment the tier 2 units come out & are fighting, army of 3 walkers, 2 kodos, raiders, 2/3 grunts, sh lvl 3 + and healing scrolls is incredible strong , to strong in my opinion, blademaster needs changes and so does spirit link, perhaps make spirit link only split magical damage or something, would be a huge nerf but its to good atm, 2k kodo hp + peons hp give an incredible amount of HP to the linked army which gets healed every single time by scrolls/healing wave, if blizz just takes a look at those 2 things nothing bout orc would be imbalanced and ofcourse buff fs :) wolfs are to weak

i never said UD is the best race
i said UD is OK as in just as good a reace as any other race
u can t expect evry MU to be the same
some races are strong vs orc are a bit weak to NE
some are good vs UD and are a bit weak vs human

i also said it depends on the palyer
not evryone has the same favourite MU

u also said and i can quote on that:
"and no I play orc when I play, and still havent lost to either undead or human."
to me this means that from when u started to play wc3 up till now u have never lost to neither human or UD
this i am sure of is not true
and even if u meant for 20 u played this year i dare say if u got 5 of the opponents as human and 5 as UD (which would be statisticaly pretty probable) i doubt u beat them all unless u don t play on Bnet but on some shitty hacknet that doesn t match u up on the basis of ELL

and btw if u play 20 games a year u r oppinion hardly accounts for anything

I meant in this patch ofcourse, orc hasnt always been imba.

and you saying "i never said UD is the best race"...
you said that UD is quote
"3. UD is very strong vs NE
4. UD is very strong vs Human
5. UD is a bit weak against orc but nothing some imbalanced base build won t solve"

by this you practically said UD is the best race ingame, 2 very strong matchups and 1 bit weak, no other race that has 2 very strong matchups and the last just bit weak according to you.

so stop contradicting yourself and stop talk bullshit, I'm right and your wrong, no matter what you say, and you posting last comment aint going to change that.

orc is imba, I say it, many many pros say it and thats fact, but I'm sure your right that imba doesnt exist!!

lets leave this thread alone now.

i disagree again
Ne also have 2 good MUs (against orc and human)
Orcs are all around probably the same since they dont have any particularly bad MUs (they hurt against Ne and Hu but nothing very serious)

and i ll say it again Hu has the worst chances to win out of all races (thats why they mass tower)
think about it
orcs could mass tower also and do mass bat baseraid but they don t need to cause they can fight with units and win
humans more or less only have good chances to win without towers against orc
against NE and UD towers are like almost a necesity
think about it

oh and btw orc haven t changed this patch so u r statement that orc is only imba this patch is stupid
ud got buffs
ne got nerf dry which don t affect ne vs orc a lot
hu got nerf on towers and staff which dont affect hu vs orc a lot

omg you dont get it do you?

(all this is according to you of how good undead is etc)

Undead: 2 very strong matchups(ne, hu), 1 bit weak matchup(orc)
Nightelf: 2 good matchups(hu, orc) and 1 very weak matchup(against undead)

how can undead not be the best race? nightelfs bad matchup is much worse then the undeads bad matchup, according to you.

you owned yourself stop trying to cover it up.

disagree, Happy, TeD, FoV are highly skilled nowadays

how do you know it not because of their races? You think fly lyn moon have by far more micro/macro TeD / FoV?

rofl i also said that orcs have 2 weak MUs and only 1 good but since they don t have any particularly bad MUs they are probably the best overal

the thing is the differences in wc3 aren t that big
but they are there
if i say ud has a very strong Mu against NE it doesn t mean elf has 0% chance to win UD of the same skill
more like 45%
u should learn this and reflect on it

wcg 2008 ftw