"China takes the top three positions with Sky, Infi and TeD, closely followed by the two Koreans Soju and Who. Where's Europe? Represented by only four players in the Top 20 - Grubby, ToD, Happy and XlorD.
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http://www.gosugamers.net/warcraft/features/2407

Moon #9 Grubby #6 - how serious can we take this ranking ( it's no basetrade ranking) ?

Their rankings is bullshit. Everytime a player win a major event, the rankings get revamped to give that one player +1331 points and + 47 places, which basically shows their lack of knowledge of this game. But gosugamers remain the best wc3 website regarding global content.

To my mind u are not right about best wc3 website but i agree with about shitness of their rankings :D

Well who else from europe is playing good?

rotterdam :O^^

No I dont think he's overrated, he's really good and is at great shape atm..grubby even said he's the best undead atm besides luci and susi (which are from grubby's clan -_-)

GG forever :)

why sky is 1st he didnt won an tour long time

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This man is right

the one above you is DiscoStew not senti.
You show a big unforgiven lack of forums knowledge.

I have been always thinking that stew/senti/mlw are one and the same person , I think that u show lack of forum knowledge !

actually MLW,stewie & senti are 3 different persons.I think hosti shows lack of some forum knowledge (Im not their clone btw)

Oh my god - you guys really spend time together! You disgust me!!

no wonder you didn't get banned lately, you made friends with Arceus again!
Quite the shame when an Sk news poster befriends with the Sk forum retards.

And there can't be different personalities when disco/MLW/senti got none to begin with. Thus disco-MLW remains as one.

yep, you made a better deal trading your life for Sk, MYM, inwc, readmore and Moon's wiki page. And you got more accounts there, too. God, I'm jealous.
I guess you had to trade more life for that than I did, huh?

it's just hearsay, but still better than your unfounded flames. After all it's the truth that you make 50 accs on 10 scene sites per week.

ofc you didn't cause that's the part where you get owned.

The ranking isn't accurate, Moon is the best player in the world.

sky #1 and infi #2 is right for sure.
I don't think anyone could give a non-biased ranking for the following 15-20 players, because their results are very similar and they tend to randomly beat and lose to each other lately....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but those rankings are calculated according to a formula based on previous results (no public vote etc...), so when you're at the end of a period with only one major tournament (and no WC3L playday) you don't get a very accurate rankings...
Let's just wait a few days, PGL and WC3L finals are on their way :)

hahah look at Sky`s achievements , they are like 1/10 of all of his?

plus his alter ago reads ppg's blog. Can't get worse than that.

"Moon #9 Grubby #6 - how serious can we take this ranking ( it's no basetrade ranking) ?"
Im not that aware of the current skill of europeans, but I fear this is kind of the situation right now.
Plus I'd count ToD as asian right now.

Question for MLW/sentiment/DiscoDaManStewie:
Where would you place Grubby and ToD on a ranking of players based on their achievements so far in 2008?

You claim they are overestimated, but how much?
Should they in your opinions be ranked 70th and 90th?
Maybe they are not even top10 Europe?
Get serious plz. When you flame "nubby & nose" at least give some real arguments.

And by that I mean other stuff than excuses for why they win
"only won cuz of basetrade", "only won cuz of small pricemoney", "only won cuz it was onlinetour" etc etc.

and when they lose it's always: "nubby got raped as expected tbh" etc etc

Clearly you guys follow the sccene -_- You must be able to argument better

Aren't they human beings too? I've lived away from my country for 3 years now, and believe it or not i want to spend my time with the family and friends. And why not flame? Yeah it is unprofessional but that doesn't make you a less better gamer. Your arguments and the ones of mlw are just plain stupid. You flame people that you don't know in person. Don't you idiots have something better to do? And if Grubby for you is "nubby" then would you tell me why he is considered one of the faces of WC3? And if he didn't know what he was doing would he get paid more each month than your family for a whole year? You just need to stop being such pricks, put yourself together and face the reality - Grubby and Tod are professional pro gamers, make their living from gaming, unlike you 2 retards and have been inspiration for many many players. As for you guys.... i don't think you could be anyone's role models....

MLW is starting to get desperate again. All we need is Luci not going 3-0 in his group at PGL (as MLW predicted) and he's back to the cave.

Hey MLW just a question: do you take yourself seriously? You about yourself in third person, which is absurd because you are practically nobody, give stupid opinions that everyone dislikes and you stay all day long in front of the computer responding to people that flame you. Now is that a person who's opinion people should respect? Doubt it... face it - you are no one and will remain no one. As soon as wc3 dies you die with it too...have a nice day.

MWL > MLW?

as I said, MLW is getting desperate and makes his pompous statements even more pathetic.

You talk* ffs...

Gosugamer proved once again that they are a bunch of idiot,,human lamers don't deserve to be put into top 3,oh wait Gosugamer = mass hum fb ?? O_~

xlord doesnt deserve to be in top20 !

the best orc is elakeduck