Sure, winning WCG is definitely not worth mentioning. I mean as we all know doubleMEupPLZ won WCG several times as well.

Don't get me wrong, I am definitely not a Grubby fanboy but this trashtalk like mlw is doing all the time is just like shit annoying.

looks like u dun remember but he won moon in that tourney in 2006 think it was weg he beat moon in the semi finals for the first time

sick of people thumbing down mlw, as soon as they see his name... he has great knowledge of the scene and people should pay attention to his posts.

its not about the knowledge, its about the way he is writing, constantly insulting other people and behaving like he is the only one who has knowledge about the scene

Nah, his "knowledge" is only about what koreans won and ignoring all other victories from europeans.

haha "TheTormented", a random new account with a Korean flag. Now who could that be?:D

Maly, bds or whatever moderator there is, why don't you just end this charade? We had enough "fun" with those 1-2 retards with 10 accs thumbing themselves up and acting all smart with the same unfounded arguments over and over. "Moon > all ==> Europe sucks, Grubby sucks, Tod sucks".

TheTormented = mlw ? ;/
Or ure fanboy of mlw ;o

its funny how mlw congratulates himself.

Well done you fucking douchebag, its pretty much the equivalent of masturbating and saying you had sex with a girl ... or in your case, a guy.

WP omarqureshi. (SEE I CONGRATULATED MYSELF WITHOUT ALIASING AS 50 OTHER PEOPLE)

By the name of the whole forum and community , I`d like to thank myself

thumb up for 'dontknow_' !

looks like MLW has slipped into an alternative reality where people say things they didn't say and where Europeans play SC as much as Koreans.

I think it's ironic that you're a kind of person correcting everyone elses grammar after reading that comment of yours MLW :(

"Not anyone in here is a brainwashed Euro / Nubby fanboy."
"..but shut the fuck up and try to improve theirself against..."
"..easy to say Sentiment and Torment are accounts of me."
"..but your argumentation is way to simple because talent and.."

I've got grammar errors myself but I dont scan through the forum to correct them.

OK, I realize that I pooped on my leg by quoting wrong person in that last quote, but you get my point.

I have an account with a korean flag, and dont oppose to MLW's views on the current wc3 scene (koreans dominating, euro's sucking) so i must be an alternative account of MLW?? One day you people will realise that 2 people from the same country with a similar view on things/facts doesnt make us the same person, just like one day you will realise that europeans like nubby will never again be on the same level as top korean gamers...

he isn't even korean, just a Korea fanboy. But hey, I guess you'd like it if there was another guy with 10 different accounts going around making fun of the Koreans like Boon, Losifer, Suxiria, Losers cause they all suck compared to the Chinese and will never be on the same level as top chinese gamers...

so whether you're MLW or not, all people sharing his retarded opinion on sportsmanship will be treated like him, as part of the disco-senti-MLW entity. You WILL get thumbed down and ultimately banned.

FunPlayer; Sounds like you make out your opinions just to disagree with MLW. I don't think there's any doubt that the Korean's has by far the best players, and has had that since the beginning of the birth of wc3. They did not prove that until some seasons ago when they started to appear in Wc3l. It's a shame that you give them less credit based upon your dissatisfaction of another person(MLW).

man, this forum sucks at anything from basic intelligence, common sense, sarcasm, irony to the law of cause and effect.

Where did I say that I (

*edit: this forum even fails at editing and formating. thx for cutting posts in half.

..that I think the Koreans suck?

I apologize, my bad. I didnt read your entire post :(

But I still think that a lot of people in here give the Koreans less credit just because of MLW.

ttguy - first person on SK forums to speak close to the truth, and not get thumbed down at the sight of his name?

It's actually 100% truth! People actually begin to hate the koreans just because of those social invalids! That quite funny, cuz the are always trying to prove how superior the koreans are, when no one is denying it and the effect is the opposite!

Take this thread as an example. The title itself says that europeans are somehow worse than the koreans and here comes the mystery man with a fake nationality, no name and empty head talking crap!

This is one if not the best thread in SK-Forums history. Very productive and interesting.

when is this article finally going to come? malystryx you lazy sob.

Europe is quite strong in most of the traditional sports. If we look into this, we can see that when a sport has aroused enough attention from the public and get well sponsorship in Europe, people start scientific and systematic study on it. We all know that European countries are well advanced in systematic training method, after-match relief, diet study of the athletes or even some psychological help to make them relax before matches. As a matter of tradition, Asian athletes usually trains harder than the European ones. It's those scientific and expertise preference of the European countries that make your athletes better in traditional sports. This also explains why Asian athletes make great progress when they start to adopt and study those methods as well. But if we look into the gaming, we can see that until now little effort has been made regarding those expertise studies, which makes hard training the only decisive factor.

Agree with MLW here. Mentality is desicive in major tournaments..

Take last years ESWC as an example; Creo's micro probably slightly superiour to Soju's, even owning him first. The it comes down to the grand final and Creo couldnt handle the pressure, so he lost, with clear traces of nervousness in his play.

Moon's got a perfect combination of good mentality, the ability to adapt perfectly, and very, very good micro. (You could also say inventor, as moon has invented several of the today's strategies now known as "cookie-cutter" strategies.)

well in this case i would agree with mlw

but at eswc finals creos timing was simply bad, especially on tr

Well what you talked about mentality is absolutely true but is slightly off the topic. This topical is about what makes the difference in their achievements between European and Asian players. The difference in mentality is something more of individual I think. Or unless you can prove that Asian players are usually mentally stronger than the European ones, where I won't encourage you to venture into. :)

I said that Creo's micro was SLIGHTLY superiour at the time. I still think that, and you'd think so too if you weren't such a Korean asslicker. One of Creo's strenghts was indeed adapting very well to strategies, but that combined with extraordinary micro. You think that someone can achieve 2nd place ESWC, 1st at Blizzcon, then winning the WCG, without the micro?

not even mlw says creos micro was bad, but his micro was never superior to the korean gosus

in my opinion aswell...

tbh if europeans worked as hard as creo did then euros could actually stand a chance vs chinese/koreans

well mlw having around 20 posts in this threat mostly consisting of "nubby sucks" "moon rocks" and ill just quote you
"I have a statistic for ANY player Moon encountered, so don't try to fool me."

speaks for itself i think.

oh and i dont get it, whats up with your hating towars grubby and grubby fans?
your a moon fan, so?
serious, lets take this as an example.
a lot unknown-who-gives-a-shit football teams even has fans, so?

i do not agree that grubby sucks, but if he did, why the fuck do you have a problem with his fans? their just supporting him like your supporting moon.
yeah grubby had a pretty bad period, but hes slowly regaining it, and it seems that moon is getting a bad period now, but who knows.
yet you always come up with excuses for moon.

like you know, grubby wins, you say nothing.
grubby loses, you say "nubby gets pwnt by low nelf"
moon wins, you say "moon raped him best player ever ehhehe ei update his player list now"
moon loses, "bad luck, he didnt play as he could, he didnt take it serious, prize pool to low etc."

where the fuck is the logic?

yeah wc3 is game i agree, but it jsut doesnt make sense to me, if wc3 is just a hobby and fun, how come you have to act like you do.
anyway stew is worse, but he claimed that he has such a nice life and only post 6 message per week so i wouldnt bother callin for him. anyway i dont really care if your hating on a person, just didnt make much sense to me why your hating him.

he just wants attention

clearly he can't get any in real life because of his "winning personality", so he tries to get it online by trolling. Wich is the easiest way to get a response out of people. If everyone would ignore his ignorant ass he would die a slow and painfull death. It really is pointless and useless to discuss anything with him, disco-stew or sentinerd.

In fact what sk should implement is a silent ignore feature. Instead of banning people and just having them recreate a new account using a proxy half a second later, they should have a feature where if a account gets tagged the posts for this account will show up for the poster but not for others. Far more effective as banning, wich basically doesn't do shit.

or just allow people to ignore certain posters, without them knowing.

you could call it a idiot filter.

You make statistics for every match Moon played and you call this "just a hobby"?

lol sorry this is not to make any hate, but i found it funny how your only friend on sk gaming is thetormented if ppl remember that.
aye friends on sk doesnt matter shit but ya know

I want to be your buddy, MLW. You own at life.

mlw or whoever you are
i think u must fuck
its far better that masturbate on moon's pictures(or other korean pros)

I think there are a few European players that have the potential to succeed but it'll be very hard to get to the top level. I don't think the skill level in Europe is as high as in Asia nowadays. So if European players want to succeed they need a good organisation(like SK :)) behind them and maybe stay in China or South Korea, just to get that extra boost that will give them a chance against the Asian-player dominated top in WC3.