Stats from gosugamers.

Lyn > Sweet NSL
Lyn > FoV AWL
Lyn > Lucifer EMII
Lyn > Protois EMII
Lyn > Hasuobs EMII
Lyn > Susiria NGL
Lyn > Happy NGL
Lyn > Susiria NGL
Lyn > Lucifer AWL
Lyn > Believe AWL
Lyn > Elfittaja WC3L
Lyn < FoV PGL
Lyn > Sweet AWL
Lyn > TeD CEG
Lyn > ReiGn AWL

14W 1L

Grubby > Happy EMII
Grubby > Protois EMII
Grubby > Hasuobs EMII
Grubby > Hasuobs AWL
Grubby > Happy WC3L
Grubby > DowaQ NGL
Grubby > DowaQ NGL
Grubby > Lucifer fragbet
Grubby > APM NGL
Grubby > Yane NGL
Grubby > DowaQ DH
Grubby > Giacomo DH
Grubby > Elfittaja NGL
Grubby > Happy NGL
Grubby < FoV MGC

14 W 1L

grubby and lyn are better players maybe?

ye you are right... yane,apm or dowaq are pretty "bad" in contrast to lyns opponents

grubby beat this ud guys already when lyn was a random unknown orc

Happy is weak against Orc? :)))

Though Grubby is not in the same level with lyn,he did very well in vs weaker ud players.

"he did very well in vs weaker ud players."
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FoV owns them both :P

but they owned him 2

yea, seems to mee that fov is imba >:[

Orc > Ud ?

Oh really ?

yes, the only conclusion is that fov is imba, you can clearly see that :D

Ud vs orc is and always was the most imbalanced match-up since 1.16. Its been there for such a long time that the ud players even stopped whining about it.

FoV

even fov lost to lyn 0-3 Oo 'lyn is just a better player'

even fov lost to lyn 0-3 Oo 'lyn is just a better player'

Even though Lyn is in top shapre right now, I wouldn't say that he is a lot better than players like ReiGn, Lucifer, FoV, Sweet or Susiria, at least not like he would win EVERY match against those guys.

It's most likely that the matchups still sucks for undeads and I hope that Blizzard will fix this within the next time.

Ud vs orc is and always was the most imbalanced match-up since 1.16. Its been there for such a long time that the ud players even stopped whining about it.

so true, ppl who still remember the time gostops fiend style was unique and zacard "invented" fast raider t2 expo to counter must be in the early-mid 20s like myself, and stopt playing years ago^^

hm,

Sweet finished 3rd in PGL behind Moon and Sky by beating XiaoT 3-0
or Sweet 2-0 Fly also @ PGL.

and there are 3 UDs in the AWL-finals...
so in general you can say that UDs are doing well overall lately especially against NEs, even for Moon it is very tough to play against UDs (0-1 Reign, 0-2 Susiria, 1-2 Xlord)

but yeah, O vs. UD is pretty much advantageous for Orcs IF they play nearly perfect...just as O vs. Ne imo.

At the end, there is only one thing we can make sure about with this stats.

FoV IMBA! :)

these stats only prove these 2 players are really strong against UD ....

I loled. Srsly