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Fresh Pots: Na`Vi vs. ESC tuscan IEM VI 1/2
Fresh Pots of CS #9 looks at the tuscan group stage game between Na`Vi and ESC.pl at the IEM VI World Championship. Part one looks at the Poles's mistakes.
By Duncan 'Thorin' Shields
Apr 17, 2012 00:08
Fresh Pots of CS #9 looks at the tuscan group stage game between Na`Vi and ESC.pl at the IEM VI World Championship. Part one looks at the Poles's mistakes.'Fresh Pots of CS' is a regular video feature in which one of the maps of a famous or important match is broken down, taking key rounds and providing talking points and food for thought. The significance of specific moments and actions on the overall outcome of the game is examined and explained.
In the ninth edition of 'Fresh Pots of CS' the final group stage game of the IEM VI World Championship, which took place on tuscan, between
Natus Vincere and 
ESC Gaming is put under the microscope and broken down. This first part looks at some of the key mistakes the Polish team made to open the door to survival for Na`Vi.
How could pasha have potentially saved NEO from being shot in the back during a key 2v2 as CT? What error did NEO make after flanking through B and behind Na`Vi's CTs? How did a flawless piece of positioning from Zeus completely turn a round to his team's favour?
Fresh Pots of CS #9:
In the ninth edition of 'Fresh Pots of CS' the final group stage game of the IEM VI World Championship, which took place on tuscan, between
Natus Vincere and ESC Gaming is put under the microscope and broken down. This first part looks at some of the key mistakes the Polish team made to open the door to survival for Na`Vi.How could
pasha have potentially saved NEO from being shot in the back during a key 2v2 as CT? What error did NEO make after flanking through B and behind Na`Vi's CTs? How did a flawless piece of positioning from Zeus completely turn a round to his team's favour?Fresh Pots of CS #9:
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The 14th round. You talking a lot about in team communication and information about Edward ( to be specific, information that Edward was nowhere to be seen). I could be wrong but in live events communication after player death is more or less forbidden (let just say one sentence allowed just after death). Adding to this what the other guys (loord, kuben , taz) saw:
loord - died in the middle and saw only starix on the right tamp
kuben - getting out from the stairs in the middle, starix kill him just as fast as loord, saw starix and probably ceh9
taz - on bomb site boxes, he kill ceh9 which came from the right ramp side, killed markeloff which came from the middle and then its killed by starix too.
What information they can give? lorrd -> none (about starix but that obvious), kuben -> none (well about starix but that obvious again, and ceh9 but taz killed him so its irrelevant), taz -> none, why? because he killed one guy from right ramp, second guy from middle, and just when he was killed by starix, pasha is noticing someone near stairs, and is giving this info to neo. So where is time to give specific information about 5th guy which wasnt seen by anyone?
Im not a cs tactician, im not even a professional player but question is is it normal to split 3 middle 2 right ramp? If not then its reasonable to think that edward is somewhere behind starix. Especially that neo came from middle and did not see anyone in the left corridor. Considering just that there is no reason to look behind him. And the flash thing. You have one flash (second one hit Edward at the beginning of the round what can be seen on your replay) and you would recommend to throw this flash behind him, where no one was seen and not on bomb site where at least one player is (and you/neo are assuming second one also). As you said such flash was holding terrorists on bomb site and does not allow to switch their positions easily. So it had sense to throw it like that. As for aiming on pasha. Why did you not ask yourself why pro player is aiming at team mate? The answer is obvious. He wanted to know how much health pasha had. Why? Because as you mention he was low (11 hp) and withdrawing was still an option. But because pasha was on full, they tried to recapture bs and failed.
All this consider it was not ridiculous to to aim at pasha, but whole your analysis of this round was.
Blaming this round on ESC, and recommending them to throw flashes not on the bomb site but right there where the opponent is, its really easy when you are watching replay dont you think?
I stopped watching rest of this movie at 10 minutes so let see what did you recommend on other rounds and how ridiculous the ESC were (and there is part 2 also).