ex-faceface > mym ^^

mTw was just good on couple events ;> top3 i mean :)

actualy this is already old picture :)

yep. really looking forward to all the new lineups.

especially the swedish ones :P because sk, fnatic and Lions have real candy lines now. Just wanna eat em.

de si n1kol1g , jel ti mozda igras kanter 15 godina ?

fanboi

Lions is very good team ^^ but na'vi fnatic FX mTw > Lions ^^

lol lions 1. navi 2. :O i hope that u are kidding:D if u are lions fan u don't have to write nonsense like they are n1 team in 2010 :) they did really good but.. u put them above navi which is...

nikosf47 :P Last time i looked Lions beat FX :P

but FX has done more overall than Lions have yet so. Your right atleast at the moment. But i think with Lions lineup now that they will be uberstrong and can beat any team in the world.

@k1Ng0r

agree. PANNOYING is just a disgrace to all other Lions fans.

Na'Vi deserved 1st.

but in 2011 i hope for Lions, SK or fnatic. ^^ he he heeeeh

sorry but FX > SK 2010 ^^

It's not about being "their" ranking or not "their" ranking. The numbers were the same for every team and obviously weren't calculated to rise Fx teams's rank.

I also feel in need to defend my criteria as the news is built around criticizing it for positioning Fx over SK in 2010, which wasn't the case at all. I personally totally didn't care about the result of the ranking but was driven by curiosity of how the 2010 will look if I will fit it using this specific type of coefficients. At first I must admit that I'm not a very big fan of all ELO rankings because of the simple reason - all this maths don't cover one thing I find very important when it comes to gaming and that's the enviroment you play in. From my point of view if two same teams clash in WCG Grand Final and some less important tournament, you can't mark the results equal - because of the tension, prestige, pressure and all kind of factors that are eventually making it harder to play your best at the bigger events.

And from this point of view, for me the gaming tournaments are much closer to tennis events rather than chess tournaments (which is the home of ELO rankings). In fact in the end no one cares about who did you play and how easy/difficult your road to the final was - because the enviroment you were playing in were making it difficult for you by themselves. What is important is your ability to finish your job and win the tournaments. This is where the "three grades" of tournaments concept starts.

In the end my ranking is more like a ski jumping world cup or the ATP rather than the ELO rankings. I still see much of the criteria being too flat to cover the results fully and that's what I'm going to work on this year. But overall I think that it is a good base to make this work. And as for many people found unusual - the Fx team placed higher than the mTw and SK teams, let me provide the answers:

- with mTw it's very simple: the Danish team simply attended two less events than Fx players and that's where the difference comes from. If you look at the proportional ranking (which I think Thorin had ignored for some reason) and drop coL's result due to their low number of appearances, then the mTw team is placed second only behind Na'Vi (which I've also indicated in the season's summary for them).
- with SK the situation is quite similar - Fx has one more appearance, but stays on top even in the proportional ranking. Why? Two teams appeared together on six occasions last year: IEM IV, Arbalet Europe, ESWC, WCG, WEM and DH Winter. Both teams were higher placed on three occasions, but the key factors were two "Grand Slam" tournaments: on ESWC SK had beaten Fx in the semis but the Poles still grabbed fourth (and significant ranking points), while on WCG 2010 SK were kicked out by Fx in the early playoffs while "my" team captured bronze. This is where the main point difference comes from :)

Thank you for reading! :)

good job ;D +1

maybe the numbers dont go into my favour,i still think mtw was better than fx in 2010,thats it(mostly because of some crazy matches with navi),and about sk,5th place sounds about right :D

stick to numbers lesa :) ^^

FX > SK ...

not this year man....not this year

mb mb :) but the ranking is for the last year :P