Have fun

pretty good talk on the stream so far

Ryan Hart (Low Land Lions) - is he a manager or a player?

Seems very interesting too bad the stream laggs and is of very bad quality

stream is really laggy

for me its quite fine.. :)

Ian Leckey (formerly of 4Kings)

Ian has returned to 4Kings, check the website for confirmation - www.four-kings.com.

TheSlaSH is doing really good. Interesting points, too bad the quality of the stream is terri bad ;/

It was very interesting to listen what TheSlash is saying, I learned a lot :)

The players debate was mildly interesting, but something most enthusiastic eSports observers will not learn from; I suppose it will be interesting to the fans of particular players.

The teams and leadership debate was boring, though the moderator was extremely knowledgeable and stimulated good discussion. Nevertheless, the drop-out of Neil Kirk and inclusion of Thomas Bengtsson did damage effective discussion; the inclusion of the latter seemed bizarre in the context of eSports. However, there were two exceptions in the debate. The audience question that highlighted SK Gaming accepting sponsorship from a betting company but refusing sponsorship from an alcohol company to suggest problematic sponsorship morality was extremely good; Alexander Mueller's justification to accept one but not the other on moral grounds was extremely unconvincing to be honest. In addition, the audience question about military sponsorship in eSports was good too, but all of the panellists, that is Ian Leckey and Alex (Thomas contributed nothing of any worth in the entire discussion to be honest), avoided the main issue at hand, which was disappointing to see.

The communities and spectatorship debate was by far the best and the most interesting one of the four, and I agreed, by in large, with David Hiltscher and Kim Rom's comments throughout the discussion. I was also a little surprised about how subdued Michal Blicharz was to be honest, though he did make a number of good points, especially about the problem of sustainability in the community; I had been waiting for about 30 minutes for someone to mention it!

The open discussion at the end was fairly good, but I was a bit upset that more of the eSports guests did not engage with the intellectual issues raised by the academics, though the discussion about female gaming was a non-issue and I was glad to see Kim speak so bluntly. The issue at the end regarding property rights was extremely interesting too, especially Paul Chaloner's outline about the problem in digital broadcasting.

The best panellists were Ian, Kim and Paul in my opinion.

i hope carmac would also offer judo lessons

not even gaming sites are safe from this kind of spam lol

Gl hf