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TheSlaSH talks to fragbite about the G7
TheSlaSH, Managing Director of SK Gaming, spoke to fragbite about the G7 in an interview which covered a variety of topics that have been on people's minds.
By Duncan 'Thorin' Shields
Dec 3, 2009 05:19
TheSlaSH, Managing Director of SK Gaming, spoke to fragbite about the G7 in an interview which covered a variety of topics that have been on people's minds.Managing Director of SK Gaming Alexander "TheSlaSH" Müller has been interviewed by fragbite about the G7 federation, which he represents as a spokesperson. The interview addresses a number of community concerns and rumours as well as allowing TheSlaSH the opportunity to explain more of how the G7 operates.
Asked if he agrees that the G7 have done little except "standard contracts, boycotting CPL and publishing statements" TheSlaSH answers:
Addressing why Team3D remained in the top 10 of the ranking despite no longer playing Counter-Strike he explained:
The G7 is a federation made up of seven members: Evil Geniuses, SK Gaming, fnatic, compLexity, MiBR, Mousesports and Craig Levine (previously of Team3D)
Source: fragbite
Asked if he agrees that the G7 have done little except "standard contracts, boycotting CPL and publishing statements" TheSlaSH answers:
"I do and I don't.
It is part of the concept that sometimes you can't see our work. Some fights or discussions stay behind closed curtains and all you see is A result. With respect to the process we don't walk around saying we did this and we did that. We rather keep discussions to ourselves sometimes just because it works better for all sides involved.
We did settle player transfer arguments in the past. We did work with organizers on a better distribution of prize money (some of it is being used to have a dedicated travel budget for smaller teams that could not afford to travel to an event if it wasn't for this budget) and many more.
The community tends to underestimate the whole process of unsolved prize money issues. Of course you read feedback here and there in forums, but getting far more than 100 mails on the topic, reading all of them, creating a list, approaching the organizers in a professional way, following up on them and working on the consequences, that is a lot of work. You will have to understand that G7 does not have to do this. Usually if the bigger teams knocked the doors of organizers, they reacted and worked with us. This here is different, this is not for G7, this is for all players that are missing money. It is probably the largest "protest" our community has ever seen so far."
It is part of the concept that sometimes you can't see our work. Some fights or discussions stay behind closed curtains and all you see is A result. With respect to the process we don't walk around saying we did this and we did that. We rather keep discussions to ourselves sometimes just because it works better for all sides involved.
We did settle player transfer arguments in the past. We did work with organizers on a better distribution of prize money (some of it is being used to have a dedicated travel budget for smaller teams that could not afford to travel to an event if it wasn't for this budget) and many more.
The community tends to underestimate the whole process of unsolved prize money issues. Of course you read feedback here and there in forums, but getting far more than 100 mails on the topic, reading all of them, creating a list, approaching the organizers in a professional way, following up on them and working on the consequences, that is a lot of work. You will have to understand that G7 does not have to do this. Usually if the bigger teams knocked the doors of organizers, they reacted and worked with us. This here is different, this is not for G7, this is for all players that are missing money. It is probably the largest "protest" our community has ever seen so far."
Addressing why Team3D remained in the top 10 of the ranking despite no longer playing Counter-Strike he explained:
"Quite simple. One of the key facts of this ranking is that it has a long term approach. Teams that have been successful lose points slowly over time. The reason is simple. We want to show which brands did a good job over time. So even if fnatic would only place 3-5 in tournaments 2010, it would still be quite a challenge to get pass them for lower seeded teams because fnatic had such strong years now. So 3D was basically ranked on a ballance from the past and the present. That is the reason. Again, it is one of the arguments we wanted to see in the ranking. Show long term good work of organizations with their teams.
The ranking does not say "this is the best team right now". such a ranking would be determined by each and every tournament at any given point of time. The G7 ranking is more complex than that. I hope my answer made it a little clearer. I also hope people go to the G7 website and look up the rules and mechanics this ranking works under."
The ranking does not say "this is the best team right now". such a ranking would be determined by each and every tournament at any given point of time. The G7 ranking is more complex than that. I hope my answer made it a little clearer. I also hope people go to the G7 website and look up the rules and mechanics this ranking works under."
The G7 is a federation made up of seven members: Evil Geniuses, SK Gaming, fnatic, compLexity, MiBR, Mousesports and Craig Levine (previously of Team3D)
Source: fragbite
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They don't people like RotterdaM never had a single mail back after sending SEVERAL mails.
Christ the G7 is more a media whore then Paris Hilton.
At the moment it feels like an elite group only backing up each other as long if it's in line with your own ideas. You need to change that vision in order to be taken seriously. Comments (like here below) Doesn't help you at all.
Take us seriously. Thank you. At this point you ain't different then GGL, Munoz or other dodgy people.
Source: http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/27267-G7_chasing_unpaid_prize_money
" RotterdaM 2 weeks ago +6 thumbs
Yeah g7 awesome, send a mail to them for unpaid prizemoney few months ago, got nothing back, great stuff over there, very serious to not even reply a mail :)"
And stop dictating how they should work, I bet you don't even bitch about your government and yet you pay them...
"At the moment it feels like an elite group only backing up each other..." Let me kill that argument by saying: Doesn't feel like that to me.
If you really wanna use your ideas, well then join them or make your own organization and do better...
TO BAD, I won't let myself being censored. Especially not by you.
As long if it's not correctly done, as long if the majority of the people fill that way. I will always bring critism if required.
"At the moment it feels like an elite group only backing up each other..." Let me kill that argument by saying: Doesn't feel like that to me."
Very Good for you I would say! Explane to me why non of them is into.. lets say a random game that had recently 50.000 euro in cash prize.. Dragonage! Tell me why isn't anyone representing them? Why ? As i've said before, it's just an elite only group that don't represent the gamer but represent themselfs. Which is not good.
If you really wanna use your ideas, well then join them or make your own organization and do better...
No, i'm giving word about their current ways of work. Watching everything in a thru a pink glass and be shiny isn't how the world works. Deal with it.
You should not criticize based on opinions, I know nothing about what they do how they do it and how much resources they have to do it. I don't know if they are doing a good job or not but I'll have to take their word for it. Why? Well cos I don't pay them a thing and neither do you or any of you self proclaimed truth seekers.
Even if they just hosted the rankings, it would be enough for me.
I'd rather have G7 than nothing...
P.S. If they start representing every commercial game that has money thrown at it cos it has uber graphics, then I will start criticizing them based on retarded opinions like you do now... (i actually know nothing of dragonage so I just assume its not good as a competitive game).
The irony in this statement is truly epic. Thank you for feeding this troll :D
"Well cos I don't pay them a thing and neither do you or any of you self proclaimed truth seekers.""
Ofcourse you don't have to pay a thing for it. Because it's not in their interest to help YOU. They only do it because it's for themselfs helpfull right now. If they didn't have payment issues, i doubt they would be so nice and help you. As i've stated before, aslong if it fits in their scedule you are welcome. Other wise, gtfo.
"I'd rather have G7 than nothing..."
G7 is nothing. So add nothing to nothing remains nothing.
"I just assume its not good as a competitive game"
First off all it was just an example. You forgot to turn on your brain and completely missing the point. No worry, let me explane to you again how it works.
There is more then just WoW, WC3 and CS there. Currently the larger group only represent that. While the real issues are on other games instead their own lineup. This has nothing to do with commercial games with ubergrapisch, your statement is flawed. And not to mention the most commercial game is World of WarCraft while all of the professional organisations have this as a game in their team.
What have you do on WCG 2007 (MYM – eStro)? You do nothing.
What have you do on WCG 2009 (wNv – k23)? You do nothing.
You guys like Putin. A lot of words and nothing more.
Sorry for my "english".
You could compare that to the Henry handball incident in France vs Ireland match.