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Infi closing on Fly for world's best player
WCG has come and gone for another year and it left us almost as many questions as answers. Is Fly still the best? Is moon past his prime? The Zechs Files investigates.
By Michael 'Zechs' Radford
Nov 17, 2009 13:49
WCG has come and gone for another year and it left us almost as many questions as answers. Is Fly still the best? Is moon past his prime? The Zechs Files investigates.The most anticipated event of the Warcraft III calendar has finished with some completely unexpected results. Some big names fell early, some small names made surprises and, most shocking of all, an orc didn’t win it. But I want to run through the performances of three of the most important players at the event, starting with…
Weiliang 'Fly100%' Lu
Before this event, and right up to the final, Fly had a strong case for being the best player in the world. Honestly, I think WCG merely weakened his claim to the throne rather than destroy it altogether. Winning two out of three international tournaments, and finishing second in the third (er… brain hurts) is still massively impressive and still puts him ahead of every other player in my opinion.
The fact that he didn’t even play badly in the final adds to his repertoire. Sure, Fly lost, but he lost to someone playing the game of his life. He got outplayed and out-thought on the day. Even the best player in the world has to have a day off, it’s just a shame for him that it came on grand final day.
Xuwen 'InFi' Wang
Speaking of grand final day… it seems like Infi is almost as guaranteed to be there as Fly lately. He turned a 2nd place at IEF (against Fly) into 1st place at WCG (…against Fly). A quick look at Infi’s recent form here on SK tells you all you need to know about his performances lately:
WE|InFi
Form: W W W W W W W W W W
I’ve never been a big fan of Infi’s style, but he seems to have found something new in his game now. The reliance on towers seems to have subsided somewhat and his games are genuinely entertaining to watch. Invisible summons is not a new idea but it isn’t something we see very often. To pull it off in a grand final is pretty special.
But the question I want to ask the readers about Infi is whether you think he is the best human player now. Xiaofeng 'Sky' Li was very poor at WCG, placing even worse than the semi-retired Yoan 'ToD' Merlo (although they both lost to the same player). Hell, even Marc 'yAwS' Förster placed above Sky at this event. I know Sky just had one bad tournament but I honestly don’t see another human player even coming close to Infi right now.
Jae Ho 'Moon' Jang
The last time I said something bad about a popular WC3 player it lead to the then highest hitting column of all time on this website, but also the most flames as well. So with that in mind, I will preface this section by saying that Moon is still a very good player.
However, he is not the unbeatable demi-god he once was. I have vaguely felt this for some time now, but WCG proved it to me. Losing to the tournament winner at WCG is no shame but it has been a LONG time since Moon won an international tournament. IEF back in December 2008, to be exact. The better part of a year is like an ice age for someone like him to go without a victory.
It almost feels as if he just doesn’t care as much any more. When I wrote my brackets preview, it almost felt like Moon was destined to finally win a WCG. He breezed past Who in the first round, but that was to be expected. Against Infi he lasted a long time with a huge disadvantage on Terenas Stand but the Moon of yesteryear would have turned survival into a comeback. Where were the hidden moonwells and sly expansions?
Maybe, as has been suggested, he is practicing more for Starcraft 2 now. Or could it be that the huge wage he receives from WeMadeFOX has undermined his motivation? For a pure competitor like Moon, I doubt it, but something has definitely changed in his game. Still, he’s the kind of player that you cannot count-out in any tournament. After writing this I’ll probably watch him win the next event and gladly eat my words. An on-form, motivated Moon is nothing but good for Warcraft III.
The Zechs Files returns next Tuesday but you can follow me on Twitter for regular updates.
Weiliang 'Fly100%' Lu
Before this event, and right up to the final, Fly had a strong case for being the best player in the world. Honestly, I think WCG merely weakened his claim to the throne rather than destroy it altogether. Winning two out of three international tournaments, and finishing second in the third (er… brain hurts) is still massively impressive and still puts him ahead of every other player in my opinion.
The fact that he didn’t even play badly in the final adds to his repertoire. Sure, Fly lost, but he lost to someone playing the game of his life. He got outplayed and out-thought on the day. Even the best player in the world has to have a day off, it’s just a shame for him that it came on grand final day.
"Sure, Fly lost, but he lost to someone playing the game of his life."
Xuwen 'InFi' Wang
Speaking of grand final day… it seems like Infi is almost as guaranteed to be there as Fly lately. He turned a 2nd place at IEF (against Fly) into 1st place at WCG (…against Fly). A quick look at Infi’s recent form here on SK tells you all you need to know about his performances lately:
WE|InFi
Form: W W W W W W W W W W
I’ve never been a big fan of Infi’s style, but he seems to have found something new in his game now. The reliance on towers seems to have subsided somewhat and his games are genuinely entertaining to watch. Invisible summons is not a new idea but it isn’t something we see very often. To pull it off in a grand final is pretty special.
"I honestly don’t see another human player even coming close to Infi right now."
But the question I want to ask the readers about Infi is whether you think he is the best human player now. Xiaofeng 'Sky' Li was very poor at WCG, placing even worse than the semi-retired Yoan 'ToD' Merlo (although they both lost to the same player). Hell, even Marc 'yAwS' Förster placed above Sky at this event. I know Sky just had one bad tournament but I honestly don’t see another human player even coming close to Infi right now.
Jae Ho 'Moon' Jang
The last time I said something bad about a popular WC3 player it lead to the then highest hitting column of all time on this website, but also the most flames as well. So with that in mind, I will preface this section by saying that Moon is still a very good player.
However, he is not the unbeatable demi-god he once was. I have vaguely felt this for some time now, but WCG proved it to me. Losing to the tournament winner at WCG is no shame but it has been a LONG time since Moon won an international tournament. IEF back in December 2008, to be exact. The better part of a year is like an ice age for someone like him to go without a victory.
It almost feels as if he just doesn’t care as much any more. When I wrote my brackets preview, it almost felt like Moon was destined to finally win a WCG. He breezed past Who in the first round, but that was to be expected. Against Infi he lasted a long time with a huge disadvantage on Terenas Stand but the Moon of yesteryear would have turned survival into a comeback. Where were the hidden moonwells and sly expansions?
"An on-form, motivated Moon is nothing but good for Warcraft III."
Maybe, as has been suggested, he is practicing more for Starcraft 2 now. Or could it be that the huge wage he receives from WeMadeFOX has undermined his motivation? For a pure competitor like Moon, I doubt it, but something has definitely changed in his game. Still, he’s the kind of player that you cannot count-out in any tournament. After writing this I’ll probably watch him win the next event and gladly eat my words. An on-form, motivated Moon is nothing but good for Warcraft III.
The Zechs Files returns next Tuesday but you can follow me on Twitter for regular updates.
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And for the record, Infi's 'SK's form' doesn't mean jack: the guy just won WCG which automatically put him on an 8 game winning streak...
one year is HUGE for moon, thats why he might have lost the motivation you need for a victory.
Read that back to yourself... are you seriously implying that WCG "doesn't mean jack"? ALso, only 1 map dropped the whoel tour.
And yes he did drop two maps. Moon did beat Infi on TM, eventhough it doesn't say so in the SK WCG coverage. Here's the rep for you: http://w3g.replays.net/doc/cn/2009-11-15/12583075273037359633.html
(Taking nothing away fro the level of competition there of course)
So what? Warcraft III is not all about winning tournaments. Its a shwo business game after all, and Moon is the Showman nr.1. Take a look at popular replay sites. Like 50 % of the Top games are with Moon. His games are Always, and im telling you, ALWAYS Extremly entertaining to watch, more than anyone else. That's what makes him number one. Stop being ignorant and stop just looking at the results. Its the content that matters
Mass irony. Try telling that to the comments on my Sky column ;) For the record, i agree with you, but this isn't a column about playing well or being entertaining it's purely about results. A piece about Moon's exciting play style or his entertaining games would be a lot longer than this one. Even just a list of his best games would probably be pushing 750 words ;)
Except the final vs Fly at the EM Chengdu >:)
I don't doubt his motivation, and of course he isn't preparing for Sc2, at least not to an amount that matters. The problem lies in the demise of elf, with a weak and hardly a good matchup, and in the Korean scene. It's been "dying" ever since the TV broadcasts stopped, but look at the players retiring over the last year. There haven't been pro Korean Humans that deserve that name for years, and the Undeads are gone too now. I'm fairly certain that even if Moon had won vs Infi at WCG he would have fallen vs Happy, not only cause of imbalance but certainly cause of a lack of training partners. On the other hand Moon's mirror matchup has improved so much, even before Soccer joined WMF. Moon hasn't lost a mirror bo3 in forever. Soccer has always been a good mirror player, but now Moon plays just like him, only better.
all the time i feel like moon deserves it so much. i love watching his games, they're just so entertaining...
Fly anyway, to me you're the best! good luck ;)
also sky had no luck in the grid ( against undeads in a bo1 always sucks as human )
infi did a great job, but common ,even as a orc hater i cant agree with u that fly get outplayed... the first game he even won within 3 mins
and the second one he almost won, until infi started to make mass invisible summons
and i think fly is still the best player and i think it was a mistake to play with the fs as first hero, but even with this he had the chances to win, but infi really played very clever so he deserves the win, but fly for sure is still the best atm!
Infi vs Moon on Terenas Stand was the rape of the century. Humiliated, outplayed, brought back down to earth. Moon is and will remain the biggest patchabuser in the history of wc3.
@Mcretardo
Are you talking about the 2 times WCG Winner Grubby? You know this guy playing orc at eye level with moon in early tft? hahahaha.
Yes, because nobody abused/dominated as many patches as he did :D
Schnulle nerdraging again.
Moon is the best wc3 gamer of all time dude!
I know Grubby is a good player also.
But you are the biggest retard after LegendaryGay and all the spanish tards in this forum.
Whatever, while your LuckyfroN is sitting at home watching replays one after another.. Moon is sitting at home and is thinking about new strats.
But you ll never understand that because u r a gay orc player whos like LuckyfroN searching claws. (And remember: LuckyfroN = rat.. it means you are a rat too)
2004 fail
2005 not qualified
2006 not qulified
2007 fail(Elf won)
2008 fail
2009 fail
Did a Korean ever win the WCG? 3 Spots - no Korean WCG Winner since 2003. So Moons China/Korea only domination(OLD PATCH) means nothing, because Koreans are not that strong? Any excuses? Even with 3 Spots no Korean was able to win wcg but this "NUBBY" from the well known pro gamer country Netherlands won twice. Thumb me down - you're just bitter ;). And Failplayer come on - stop using expressions like "nerdraging." You're member of the famous "anti grubby guild" You're complaining about orc for more than one year but now after moon failed vs human and sky vs undead you're running out of arguments. Come on just view Infi vs Moon on Terenas Stand. Amazing Zeppelinmicro, superb micromanagement but of course I'm not talking about moon.
Kinda like a puppy on crystal meth
2004 Grubby
2005 Moon
2006 Moon
2007 Moon
2008 Moon
2009 Moon
2010 Moon
2011 Moon /WMF contract ends
Yeah, WCG is a pity, but you fail to see the bigger picture. And the act of joining an anti-grubby group is comparable to your nerdraging how? You make massive rants about balance when Grubby loses an Orc mirror http://www.sk-gaming.com/match/24432 and whine about Orc being balanced or weak even, now that they haven't won a tournament for once. That's some Grubby logic indeed. Your "arguments" would be hilarious as a troll, in your case it's just delusional.
and also how on earth do u wanna know that SCII will have such an e-sport impact? for sure everyone will play it atleast 4 fun but the question is will people play it as an e-sports games?
just tell me 1 good reason why europe for example or china should change now their opinion about starcraft.
they think Wc3 > SC. so why should the same game with a better graphics (who the fuck cares in e-sport) and some other units change all that?
this crap is just 2 much hype. OH SCII COMING OUT EVEN IF I KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE GAME I WILL SAY ITS AWESOME WOHO !!!!!.
god in hell....
and schnuggles stfu srsly....
fly lost, that's all. You are clearly not objective enough.
What counts in WC3 is overall prize money 2003-2009 since it has been released.
I want long run stats, no temporare bullshit.
If I played poker based on daily sessions success I would give up already.
Moon has Ten times the tourmoney of Infi, so its boring to talk about Moon all the times.
With or without WCG, Moon leads the money rank, thus being the most successful player of all times.
and it's not about entertaining it's about winning, nothing else matters if someone who makes entertaining replays there should be countless number ones, th000 is just one of them and what about people like AKM they where never considered as great players however there replays where entertaining so stop that bullshit with number one because of entertaining replays, the results matter and moon doesn't have the results ...