"CTF is working. ESL can add it and it will continue to work. Quake TDM was the best, it was so awesome in barrysworld and Clanbase eurocup. But where did it all go? Well I'll tell you, TDM lost it's prestige, so it lost it's players. Why didn't CTF? Well CTF didn't need its prestige as much. I think it had a more casual fun factor to it. TDM was gritty hardcore quake. It was fucking brilliant at the high level and yes it pretty much died. So in my opinion, EMS is taking a risk on TDM but it's the right decision. Why? Well, TDM needs to be stable and right now it's not, that's why it's so fucking risky. Players are everywhere right now, no real teams even exist. Think how many teams have asked fox to play with them. Think how many top TDM'ers can't pick teams or won't return to TDM just skipping it completely."