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Earlier today we reported a statement from astralis Team leader "crzy" why they had decided to leave, but now, the Team Hardwire CEO has given his statement about the whole thing.
By Andréas 'fisk' Johansson
Jun 27, 2009 16:44
Earlier today we reported a statement from astralis Team leader "crzy" why they had decided to leave, but now, the Team Hardwire CEO has given his statement about the whole thing.We reported earlier today about astralis leaving the Team Hardwire organisation. Now the Team Hardwire CEO "copyR" reveals his statement in this issue, and tells us that the agreement was to first of all, sign the contracts with the players, then go official, and finally book the tickets to GameGune in Spain.
However, when they actually have joined the organisation after two weeks of discussions, something went wrong. This is Team Hardwires story.
However, when they actually have joined the organisation after two weeks of discussions, something went wrong. This is Team Hardwires story.
"When they talked with us about signing to our organization, they left us a PSD. with full information about Astralis past time and what they had planned for coming events.
Gamegune was the first event, and as the PSD told and as the team-manager crZy told us the budget was at *CENSORED* EURO.
The Hardwire organisation agreed to pay the sum and everything seemed to be in order, for a short moment that is. As soon as we went official with the lineup we were told to get the bookings done, something we were obliged to do due to the agreement. The only problem was that the sum/budget that both parts had agreed upon, dramatically changed. The lineup together with their team manager suddenly demanded more money than we had agreed to finance. 3/3 was the budget that the initial agreement was based upon; now they demanded 4/3.
We told the guys and the team-manager to find a way to solve it for the budget we had given them 3/3 that is. They did not agree to this, they wanted the new price they just came up with, and when we did not agree to this, they left us."
Gamegune was the first event, and as the PSD told and as the team-manager crZy told us the budget was at *CENSORED* EURO.
The Hardwire organisation agreed to pay the sum and everything seemed to be in order, for a short moment that is. As soon as we went official with the lineup we were told to get the bookings done, something we were obliged to do due to the agreement. The only problem was that the sum/budget that both parts had agreed upon, dramatically changed. The lineup together with their team manager suddenly demanded more money than we had agreed to finance. 3/3 was the budget that the initial agreement was based upon; now they demanded 4/3.
We told the guys and the team-manager to find a way to solve it for the budget we had given them 3/3 that is. They did not agree to this, they wanted the new price they just came up with, and when we did not agree to this, they left us."
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When we talked about signing hardwire all we cared about was getting our trip to gamegune getting done as soon as possible, making it the first priority.
copyR told us hardwire was able to pay for the trip, we looked into it and i left him the numbers for the trip and he said ok.
Next he stayed off for 1 week, coming online and saying lets get on with this. As we said all the way, we didnt want to go official before he booked the flight tickets (due to the fact the organisation had a pretty shady reputation).
That didnt happen. He sent us a contract which was ready to be signed. We still wanted our flying tickets paid before signing anything. Nothing still happened.
We then went official under the hardwire name (this is 3 weeks from when we first started to talk with the hardwire organisation) and from then, the price of the flying tickets has rose with almost 1000€, something which could have been prevented from the bookings we first talked about.
A budget is there to be held, but when you plan a lan budget and look up plain prices aswell as hotel prices, you dont book them 3 weeks later during the holidays in finland, ofcourse the prices are higher.
Our option was that he could pay the flight tickets, we said pay the flights and we can figure the rest out later, theres a month left to gamegune (we had 48hours from gamegune to show them our flying tickets), nothing still happened.
We didnt demand money, we demanded what stood in the contract and you couldnt live up to it.
The organisation itself had the worst reputation, thats why we were like that. If we were joining an organisation like SK roccat or fnatic or something, we wouldnt be like that, for sure. Why should you be a bit aggressive when your in a team where you actually want to stay? its not going to benefit you at any point at least.
Trust is a 2 way street, thats true, but when you cant trust the owner when hes just saying "im in the middle of a cupgame" - "lets do it tomorrow" - "looking into it now" - "i dont have a visa" - "i cant transfer without the rest of the admins knowing it (which we never seen anyone).
To finally shut down this conversation once and for all, our contract said:
Team Duties
1. “Team-Hardwire” agrees to sending the “Player & Manager” to major events, covering hotel and travel expenses where applicable. Each event is deemed major on a case-by-case basis at the discretion of “Team-Hardwire”.
So what did we do wrong? according to our contract hardwire should pay our gamegune event. It doesnt say that the plain tickets will rise then you wont go.
Thanks for your time, cya :)
"He sent us a contract which was ready to be signed. We still wanted our flying tickets paid before signing anything. Nothing still happened."
... how can you expect that when you dont even sign the contract? lol :S
there's nothing wrong.
Ofcourse we wouldnt sign anything from a shady organisation without getting some of the things they promised first, and we still wont :)
or both?
just take the bus :D:D:D
But nevertheless i think that they failed by not getting the tickets sooner as the contract went official
""We actually dont use sponsors, we have a good budget without them, maybe we will sign som sponsors later on, but it's not a top priority right now"
Does that mean copyR is "paying" for everything out of his own pocket?
http://synck.eu/index.php?site=news_comments&newsID=459
"hardwire is ran by some 14 year old kid who fixed keycords, stickers and free applejuice :SS
this team deserves way more better imho"
SUNE YOU SHOULD listen to me more often :PPP
goodluck though!