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Do something with BM please, says ToD
the defending champion of World Esports Masters, Yoan "ToD" Merlo could all but keep hold of his title after losing to Xuwen "infi" Wang earlier today. Both players shared their thoughts of vigourous Orcs in the latest patch in a post-interview with Replays.Net.
By Ran 'FoReVeR_ManUtd' Liu
Oct 27, 2008 10:19
the defending champion of World Esports Masters, Yoan "ToD" Merlo could all but keep hold of his title after losing to Xuwen "infi" Wang earlier today. Both players shared their thoughts of vigourous Orcs in the latest patch in a post-interview with Replays.Net.Anything to talk about this game?
ToD: Actually everyone knows that I don’t like Hum mirror and I lost several times in mirror in practice yesterday so I am not surprised with the result today, especially playing on the map I dislike the most, TM.
Infi: I don’t like Hum mirror either just like ToD, but WEM don’t allow us switching race so there’s no choice for me. I went with an unusual tactic I thought of so I am quite happy to win.
Was the staff of silence infi got from creeping decisive?
ToD: Yeah. I was kinda bad luck, but infi was playing better than me today so he won.
You had the exact same results as xiaOt and GoStop back in WEG Masters and proceeded from your group via two tie-breakers and then went on to win the competition in the end. Do you think you will repeat your feat this time?
ToD: Nah (smile)
Is there anything to prepare for the next game?
Infi: It’s usually the same shit in Hum vs. Orc recently so I will simply use the usual tactic against Lyn.
ToD: hmm.. I practiced a lot with some UD players in Korea and I am feeling good, but TED is not quite the same as Korean UDs. His strategy is quite unique, like the strategy he used on EI against me in ESWC Global Final. Anyway I will do my best this time.
How is it going with your preparation for WCG?
Infi: I value WCG a lot and I know the maps I am going to play in group stage one month prior to WCG so I’ve practiced a lot. But now Sai’s visa application was denied and I will probably go to another group if TED receives visa. I have to start over if my opponents change.
ToD: I’ve worked a lot on it so we will see.
Have you come across any new strategy lately?
ToD: Human players actually have some special tactics on some new maps.
Orcs have been really strong since 1.22. What do you think about them?
ToD: BM can not only scout and creepjack now, but also applies huge pressure on his opponent in early game with good items. I wish Blizzard will do something with BM if possible.
Infi: One combo is simply enough for Orc against any race. For example, Orc players practice 30 games a day and he only need to practice one unit combo, while other races have to practice for many different tactics for every race everyday.
ToD: Actually everyone knows that I don’t like Hum mirror and I lost several times in mirror in practice yesterday so I am not surprised with the result today, especially playing on the map I dislike the most, TM.
Infi: I don’t like Hum mirror either just like ToD, but WEM don’t allow us switching race so there’s no choice for me. I went with an unusual tactic I thought of so I am quite happy to win.
Was the staff of silence infi got from creeping decisive?
ToD: Yeah. I was kinda bad luck, but infi was playing better than me today so he won.
You had the exact same results as xiaOt and GoStop back in WEG Masters and proceeded from your group via two tie-breakers and then went on to win the competition in the end. Do you think you will repeat your feat this time?
ToD: Nah (smile)
Is there anything to prepare for the next game?
Infi: It’s usually the same shit in Hum vs. Orc recently so I will simply use the usual tactic against Lyn.
ToD: hmm.. I practiced a lot with some UD players in Korea and I am feeling good, but TED is not quite the same as Korean UDs. His strategy is quite unique, like the strategy he used on EI against me in ESWC Global Final. Anyway I will do my best this time.
How is it going with your preparation for WCG?
Infi: I value WCG a lot and I know the maps I am going to play in group stage one month prior to WCG so I’ve practiced a lot. But now Sai’s visa application was denied and I will probably go to another group if TED receives visa. I have to start over if my opponents change.
ToD: I’ve worked a lot on it so we will see.
Have you come across any new strategy lately?
ToD: Human players actually have some special tactics on some new maps.
Orcs have been really strong since 1.22. What do you think about them?
ToD: BM can not only scout and creepjack now, but also applies huge pressure on his opponent in early game with good items. I wish Blizzard will do something with BM if possible.
Infi: One combo is simply enough for Orc against any race. For example, Orc players practice 30 games a day and he only need to practice one unit combo, while other races have to practice for many different tactics for every race everyday.
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agree with infi.
Damn True!!! TeD gogogogo!
mb more loading for Wind Walk on each level??
To give a race superman as hero and make their units suck is not to balace it up, in that case it could end up with a BM doing "100-150 damage" and the rest of the orc units doing "1-2" damage, it would not be balanced, its just wrong principle of what balance is >.
imo orc=elf=human and undead is the weakest...
Orc > Human (earlier it was Hu >= Orc, but right now, BM > Human Army)
Ud > Human (outstandin players like ToD, Sky and infi could defeat UD in earlier patch quit easily with MK/Pala tactics and towers/exe/tank, but with the weak towers its even harder to make the expansion, UD do also now push at T2 with naga and mass fiends while the Hu just build his exp up and got nothin except 2-3 towers) Hu has to play perfect to got a shot on maps like TR or TM.
Ne > Human (Actually it seems that Hu got suprisingly the most chances in 1.22 with an fast exp and the unit mix (breaker,casters,mortas, but also here, no exp = no chance)
Just like infi said, Hu has to train different tactics and unit combos for every matchup while orc and ud just have to do the same over and over again with grunts/fiends (raider,statues) which they can use until the very late game. Ne can change between mass t1 or mass bears/talons, but thats also no real unitmix. :)
The Superman heros (bm!!!!!!!!!!!!! and little bit of dh) need a nerf that Hu dont have to make fast exp against nearly every oppo to get a chance of winnin.
Keep fighting Sky, ToD & infi, for the Humans ;>
imo orc > all ... just ne = orc.. but orc >>> UD and orc >/= hu
and on gw / sv / LT orc > all anyway...
bm can keep a whole army busy btw. especially early game against archers or footies or militia or ghouls or dk or fiends.. just not against grunts.. oh SUPRISE THATS ORC unit
orc has no weakness, while NE has UD and UD got orc and on pro level also hu is a weakness of UD... but orc-ud is freewin for orc nearly everytime.. dunno how TeD wins against orc sometimes ;P
and for humans, they have ~the same chances against every race i think, the race is well balanced now
Dota Hero Buffing FTL.