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On British Gaming and the Children of Satan
Once upon a time, in a kingdom not so far away, The Devil spawned a generation of gamers. But all stories have a happy ending, and the children were surpressed. They went on to become officer-workers, shelf-stackers and glass-collectors instead. This week, The Zechs Files tells their story.
By Michael 'Zechs' Radford
Jun 24, 2008 05:11
Once upon a time, in a kingdom not so far away, The Devil spawned a generation of gamers. But all stories have a happy ending, and the children were surpressed. They went on to become officer-workers, shelf-stackers and glass-collectors instead. This week, The Zechs Files tells their story.For a long time now, I’ve wanted to write an article about British gaming. Something along the lines of “The Fall and Fall…” The trouble is, it’s a very complicated issue and to say “we aren’t good enough” is far too simplistic. Also, I honestly belief it's untrue. I’ve got two half finished drafts on this computer alone and as I write this opening paragraph I wonder whether this effort will end any differently.
However, I feel I have recently hit upon the underlying reason for Britain's lack of success. It runs a little deeper than the “gaming is for nerds” theory but it’s along the same lines.
That theory is the best one to explain why America, one of the largest civilised populaces in the world produced only two championship winning CS teams, while Sweden – with a population of 9,000,000 has had several. The basic premise is that gaming is still seen in America as the pastime of basement-dwelling troglodytes. Unless you are incredibly dedicated it’s very difficult to succeed in something that everyone tells you is a waste of time.
The money involved in CGS might start to change people’s minds on the other side of the pond but the yanks have suffered for it in the past.
This is also true of the UK. After all, we are pretty much America’s 51st state. But the bad image of gamers runs a little deeper in British society than just cool kids looking down on nerdy ones.
Gaming across the world is seen as youthful endeavour and therein lays the problem for British gamers. The youth in this country are demonised by the media and politicians. Pick up any English newspaper today and you’re likely to see at least one story about hooded, cider-binging youths mugging an old granny or knifing their fellow delinquents. Everything young is bad, ergo gaming is bad.
Why is this a problem, though? After all, didn’t I just say that dedicated players can still make a go of it? Well, yes they can. That’s why the UK has had limited success in the gaming world. 4k’ CS, for all that they disappointed us, did make an awful lot of semi-final appearances and were practically guaranteed to cause one upset in major tournaments. DeMusliM does us proud in WC3L and NGL, without setting the world on fire and in duelling we used to be amongst the best in the world with Painkiller in patircular.
The problem is that these players don’t get the same sponsorship as their non-British fellows. Most countries that succeed in esports have at least one team with a “lifestyle” sponsorship. SK with adidas, WE just signed a deal with Pepsi and so on. 4k, on the other hand, has gaming sponsor after gaming sponsor. Adidas and Pesi don’t want their name associated with something which is seen in such a bad light. In mainland Europe and China gaming is something to be celebrated and enjoyed. Companies will put their name on the jersey of a team which has good publicity. They won’t support a British team seemingly comprised of anti-social wasters.
This almost leads me to think the CGS might not be as bad as I’ve always claimed it to be. Generally speaking, anything that succeeds in America has traditionally succeeded over here and if CGS can bring American gaming out of the cellar and into the living room then it might just do it for British gaming as well. After all, our teams actually did quite well in season one.
But then again, I’d rather have it the way it is than see gaming debase itself into a WWE clone, complete with attractive but pointless bimbos, flashing lights and bad commentary (did you HEAR Chris Kamara on the FIFA games?!). It seems like a fair few people in this generation feel the same way too. There is a strong, growing feeling of anti-Americanism in this country thanks to a certain Mr Bush. CGS has taken off slightly better in the UK than in Europe and Asia but that’s no real endorsement.
Sadly, what British gaming really needs is a fundamental shift in public opinion and attitude. It needs sponsorship and its players need support. This will only happen if the media stops making the entire group of 12-21 year olds look like harbingers of the apocalypse – their hoods like the cowls of the four horsemen. Until then we’re stuck with also-ran status and the bittersweet memory of that game.
However, I feel I have recently hit upon the underlying reason for Britain's lack of success. It runs a little deeper than the “gaming is for nerds” theory but it’s along the same lines.
That theory is the best one to explain why America, one of the largest civilised populaces in the world produced only two championship winning CS teams, while Sweden – with a population of 9,000,000 has had several. The basic premise is that gaming is still seen in America as the pastime of basement-dwelling troglodytes. Unless you are incredibly dedicated it’s very difficult to succeed in something that everyone tells you is a waste of time.
The money involved in CGS might start to change people’s minds on the other side of the pond but the yanks have suffered for it in the past.
This is also true of the UK. After all, we are pretty much America’s 51st state. But the bad image of gamers runs a little deeper in British society than just cool kids looking down on nerdy ones.
Gaming across the world is seen as youthful endeavour and therein lays the problem for British gamers. The youth in this country are demonised by the media and politicians. Pick up any English newspaper today and you’re likely to see at least one story about hooded, cider-binging youths mugging an old granny or knifing their fellow delinquents. Everything young is bad, ergo gaming is bad.
"Pick up any English newspaper today and you’re likely to see at least one story about hooded, cider-binging youths"
Why is this a problem, though? After all, didn’t I just say that dedicated players can still make a go of it? Well, yes they can. That’s why the UK has had limited success in the gaming world. 4k’ CS, for all that they disappointed us, did make an awful lot of semi-final appearances and were practically guaranteed to cause one upset in major tournaments. DeMusliM does us proud in WC3L and NGL, without setting the world on fire and in duelling we used to be amongst the best in the world with Painkiller in patircular.
The problem is that these players don’t get the same sponsorship as their non-British fellows. Most countries that succeed in esports have at least one team with a “lifestyle” sponsorship. SK with adidas, WE just signed a deal with Pepsi and so on. 4k, on the other hand, has gaming sponsor after gaming sponsor. Adidas and Pesi don’t want their name associated with something which is seen in such a bad light. In mainland Europe and China gaming is something to be celebrated and enjoyed. Companies will put their name on the jersey of a team which has good publicity. They won’t support a British team seemingly comprised of anti-social wasters.
This almost leads me to think the CGS might not be as bad as I’ve always claimed it to be. Generally speaking, anything that succeeds in America has traditionally succeeded over here and if CGS can bring American gaming out of the cellar and into the living room then it might just do it for British gaming as well. After all, our teams actually did quite well in season one.
But then again, I’d rather have it the way it is than see gaming debase itself into a WWE clone, complete with attractive but pointless bimbos, flashing lights and bad commentary (did you HEAR Chris Kamara on the FIFA games?!). It seems like a fair few people in this generation feel the same way too. There is a strong, growing feeling of anti-Americanism in this country thanks to a certain Mr Bush. CGS has taken off slightly better in the UK than in Europe and Asia but that’s no real endorsement.
"12-21 year olds look like harbingers of the apocalypse – their hoods like the cowls of the four horsemen."
Sadly, what British gaming really needs is a fundamental shift in public opinion and attitude. It needs sponsorship and its players need support. This will only happen if the media stops making the entire group of 12-21 year olds look like harbingers of the apocalypse – their hoods like the cowls of the four horsemen. Until then we’re stuck with also-ran status and the bittersweet memory of that game.
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Moreover, in the new games like CoD and CSS, yes British teams seem to do quite well (though i don't particularly follow these games, or personally include them as esports but that's irrelevant) but like you said yourself, our best players moved over from 1.6 so they had a head start. The best 1.6 players from Sweden, Germany, France etc. are still playing 1.6 so their CoD and CSS players have to play catch-up. Just look at the most successful CSS teams: all American because the huge majority of their top 1.6 players left for the money of CGS quite a while ago. The same fr0d, Ksharp and Moto that beat their UK counterparts in 1.6 are doing the self-same thing in Source so to say that our best oldskoolers have moved on is true, but it doesn't really change anything.
Also, considering that this Salvo CSS team have never actually faced coL, and placed higher than Ksharp's team, I don't really see how that is true at all ;)
UK might not have been world beaters in 1.6, but there is nothing stopping the source UK scene being one, not judging by the already proven results.
"Sadly, what British gaming really needs is a fundamental shift in public opinion and attitude. It needs sponsorship and its players need support. "
Are you referring to saraly? LAN funding? hardware? seriously, that is the most retarded statement I have EVER read in my entire life... but hats off to you, you really pushed the boat out there. Are you forgetting the sole purpose of gaming? the reasons why you actually bought a game in the first place?
I realise this is a competitive gaming site, but tarring millions of gamers with the same brush is rather bold. Lets take a look at the competitive scene withing the UK for only CS:Source at the moment...
London Mint - Professional
Birmingham Salvo - Professional
Then just outside we have the other "semi professional" teams such as:
Team-Zboard
Guns4hire
TLR
Infused-Gaming
Veni Vidi Vici
D-Sky
XciteUK
I've probably missed a few but all of these have full LAN funding from their sponsors. These are British orginisations filled with British players, your statement looking a little "bold" now?
You seem to be taking things a little too serious and forgetting that the majority of players in the UK do actually play for fun and if they can make a little money or get a LAN paid for them then its high fives all around. Looking at the team I play for which is mentioned in the list, we get all our travel paid for us, a hotel provided, hardware, entry to an event and also food and drink. What more could we possibly want from our sponsors? a reach-around behind Mcdonalds? We all have lives beyond gaming, its what we do as a hobby and if we can get this much backing from a hobby then whats the problem?
Having any of these "semi professional" teams in the UK is ideal for any UK gamer, you have players from the ages of 15 and not even out of school who are getting sent to tournaments around Europe, with a hotel provided for them on arrival. If you had told me this ten years ago I would of thrown my football boots straight into the skip.
"Pick up any English newspaper today and you’re likely to see at least one story about hooded, cider-binging youths"
"I never said demonisation of the youth is the only reason we haven't done very well, just one reason."
Seriously man, stereotyping British youth's as cider drinking granny stabbers and including it in your GAMING article is shocking. This has NOTHING to do with gamers just teens in general. Gamers are the type of people the world doesn't have enough of. The inernet is filled with "e-thugs" some of whom are in the UK but do you honestly think they go from chatting dribble on UKCT to stabbing some old granny for her purse..? Really cant see where your coming from. There was an article in the newspaper and on national television recently where a teenager intervined in a robbery and was unfortunately shot in the chest... turns out he was an avid gamer who actively uses the enemydown community... dont see that included in your article?
Theres one word that pretty much sums you up, that word is babedick.
Zechs, your jumping on the sensationalist journalistic bandwagon is as manipulative as it is shameful. You have targetted both a site where your one sided arguement against using 1.6 and WC3 as examples would be well received and then you have used Boris Johnson's subject matter from recent newspaper articles.
say no more
And Jafro, i don't count CSS as an esport title personally - even if i did, it's so far behind 1.6 in development and history that you couldn't write a column like this. Every country in the world, more or less, has less pro source teams, simply because they have less source players to choose from in the first place.
And again, let me make this clear, since a lot of people are missing the point here ENTIRELY, while still writing 4-5 paragraph replies aobut the wrong thing. I do not think the youth of today are a bunch of scumbags, i'm saying that the media portrays them as such. It isn't difficult.
wait a minute, could it possibly be that CSS doesnt have as much development and History as 1.6 because it was released years later?!?! surely not.....
you dont count it as an "esport title" yet you talk about CGS to support youre article, CSS is the biggest game in the CGS at the moment. They may switch to COD12 eventually but they will never switch to 1.6 as it looks like it belongs on the N64, CSS is probably "the" esports title at the moment.
You will notice you never see this happening as much in other countries or have such idiotic behaviour from the other team as compared to here. It's a known fact we harbour some of the most pathetic people in the World and these people are the main reason (i feel) for our poor performances in online gaming.
As we all obviously know, most of todays gaming is taken up by youths and these are the people that are projecting our poor results in competitive online gaming - not because they simply suck, but because the whole background, behaviour and mind-set of these people are totally ignorant and below what you see anywhere else around the World.
We really do need to do something about this, but then again we can't when we have such hoolagons ruling our gaming scene. Who wants to sponsor a bunch of children who can't even hold an ounce of respect for other human-beings?
The kids aren't bad, they are made to look bad, therefore nobody will sponsor them. Is it REALLY that hard to comprehend?
The traffic has gone up though, so there's an issue but it isn't to do with people leaving the website. Your cricitism here is completely irrelevant (and unfounded), firstly it's about news items and not features (articles and columns), secondarily you're completely wrong. While you might not have the attention span to enjoy a good standard of news, there are others who enjoy the "essays just for a roster change".
"Also the majority of articles are pretty useless, most of the SK staff are English and are getting out done by a foreigner (no offence to Carmac, I love your work) but you should not be worse at your own language than someone not from this country, yes, hes probably better than me, but i'm not into journalism."
This is a perfect example of your lazy criticism. Define what you consider "pretty useless [articles]" and please do tell how we're "worse at our own language than someone not from this country". Ignoring the fact that Carmac is much more experienced than any of the other writers, and he's paid to write and produce content for this website full time, if you honestly think he's better than either me or Zechs in English then you're deluded.
Now that that's out the way,
Your entire article sounds like sensationalist media talking about football. Infact, it looks like you have managed to take your complete basis of thought and discussion from the recent events with 'English players not being good enough, we need academies' in football.
And guess what! You're wrong!
On two counts that is. You've managed to make a parrellel that a) shouldn't exist and b) makes no sense, because it's not the image of kids that retracts the sponsors from your two precious games (1.6 and WC3), it's the fact that they're dieing a slow and painfull death. While I personally believe WC3 shouldn't be, and still has a bit of hope in the UK, the only reason for that train of thought is that there isn't a worth successor (until SC2 comes).
However, 1.6 is truely dead, at least in the UK. Yes, this comes from a source player, yet I'm completely indifferent as to whether 1.6 stays alive or dies.
You'd be really, really stretched to write the same article of shit that you wrote about the actual gaming scene in the UK, of Source + COD4 (*spit*). As Jafro mentioned above, in fact, I will quote the teams he mentioned:
"London Mint - Professional
Birmingham Salvo - Professional
Then just outside we have the other "semi professional" teams such as:
Team-Zboard
Guns4hire
TLR
Infused-Gaming
Veni Vidi Vici
D-Sky
XciteUK"
+ Many, Many More.
They're obviously finding it tough to get sponsors. Obviously the newspapers are really affecting sponsors view's on gamers. Wait...
And don't give me that crap that you "don't class source as an esport". It's that backwards view that is making you look like an idiot here - the UK is thriving in Source and COD4, with Source having possibly the best team in the world (isn't that what you wanted?) coming from the UK, in Salvo.
And to say there is little competition in the Source scene would be ludicrous too. With huge numbers of players from all countries - and that number is really rising with the upcoming Russian Source scene, the fact that America is switching to Source for CGS (along with plenty of your 1.6 stars in Europe) - Source is only on the rise at the moment.
Honestly, your article looks less and less like a real piece of journalism, and more and more like a piece of fanboyism written in a pine_mode 1 about his beloved 1.6.
Sad.
The reason? The scene in the UK has moved on. Biggest reason for that? The only UK league system (enemydown) backed Source from the begginging, while ESL, CAL, CB all slowly worked into it (and even now back 1.6 more).
I reiterate for you: The lack of 1.6 'worldbeating' teams in the UK is solely down to Source, taking the vast majority of 1.6 players (where do you think all the Source players have come from? Thin air? 60%+ are ex-1.6ers (myself included)) have moved across to the future of counterstrike and where the money is.
And to say that other countries don't take it seriously... Well, are you missing all of those 1.6 friends that have moved across? It must be getting lonely in the 1.6 world now :)
By the way, CGS is primarily backed in this country by BSkyB. Not entirely sure who they are though, they just sound like some bad start up company.
The fact that it was shown on primetime, Sky One, over christmas also isn't an indication of BSkyB targetting teens. No, it's definately not that.
CGS may be shit (is shit), but it's still backed by worldwide sponsors and showing the games played on it to a worldwide audience - INCLUDING the UK.
What I really liked was the interviews with sponsors such as pepsi/addidas and managers of reason,4kings, tlr, dignitas to see whats wrong with the cs 1.6 scene...
Oh sorry all of that was meant for a real journalist who actually takes time to research their theories, which you are not.
Its also nice to see the view of an SK-Gaming writer, that only 1.6 and wc3 are REAL eSports, thus saying that SK-Gamings own teams are not playing REAL eSports.
Next time you write an article entitled "British Gaming" then actually do some reasearch and take a look at British Gaming not the wc3/cs1.6 scenes.
+'d
Oh and as for real esports, in all honesty it doesn't matter. If i don't include Source, COD etc. in my own opinion it really doesn't matter. Teams will still play, leagues will still be run and money will still change hands. I'm not some kind of puppet belonging to BDS that has to toe the company line (nobody here is - read one of evan's articles) but the fact that i don't agree with his vision of esports REALLY doesn't matter.
Hence my article comments.
The content of the column is still misguided and mislabeled, because you've only talked about two gaming scenes and tried to generalise your view. The media has nothing to do with the professionalism of British Gamers, or why we dont achieve golds in all the events. Long before the media was saying the youth of today is a bunch of granny stabbing hoodies. Gaming was around before the media took this stance and the british weren't winning medals then.
The more acceptable route would be professionalisim, the euro's take games more seriously, british gamers play for fun, if we win along the way fine, but they play for fun, so british gamers wont put the kind of effort that the euros do, as they play for fun and win stuff along the way. Where as euros play to be the best, have fun doing it.
Also the comment on the sponsorships of british gaming firms, its because the majority of them, stick to what they know best and they know gaming affailited companys better, where as SK,mym,wnv, etc go after the bigger fish so to speak and secure these "lifestyle sponsorships". Its an attitude problem not a media one that is why we dont have such success in the games you refer to.
rofl man these are the most active scenes nowadays stop acting like such a 1.6 fan....
lets look at a few numbers for my british counter-strike source team and why this quote is absolutely retarded.
The next LAN we are attending our sponsors are giving us £1000 to attend the LAN with around 8-10 teams, the prize-fund is £1500...
For the CGS combine in 2007, they provided us with £2000 to attend the event, along with a bootcamp and an apartment for 2 weeks.
For the LAN before that they provided us with £1000
they have done this consistently for every LAN for the past 3 years.
Good effort though you spasticated babedick