The conflict spawned from one of the NGL-One admins permitting Winners to play for mTw despite having played against PGS with BeT earlier in the season. PGS manager LLoth's protests were to no avail and believes their line-up and roster strategy were put in danger following this decision.
NGL-One Head Admin Perdita was brought into the conflict and used his position to bend the rule due to the circumstances and stuck by his admin's decision as well as issuing PGS with two penalty points for their behaviour.
The incident in detail
"The admin in question misinterpreted this rule believing the fact Winners did not physically play versus PGS while in BeT meant he was still a legitimate choice for mTw."
Winners was in the roster for Beijing E-Sports Team when they played PGS earlier in the season, despite however BeT winning without him needing to play, this does still constitute him "playing".According to Head Admin Perdita after the match was over, the admin in question misinterpreted this rule believing the fact Winners did not physically play versus PGS while in BeT meant he was still a legitimate choice for mTw.
Due to this error when asked by mTw manager rukie if Winners could play, the admin in question gave mTw the green light to use a player who according to their rules should not be allowed to play.
Baffled by the decision Lloth of PGS went straight to Perdita explaining that Winners was in the line-up versus his team in BeT and therefore should be not allowed to play to which Perdita replied "true he is not allowed to play".
However, according to Perdita this was said without prior knowledge of the situation and the fact that admin in question had given mTw permission to use Winners.
Deciding to stick by the decision of his admin Perdita therefore agreed for mTw to be able to play with Winners because their other player hanf was unable to play. The channel reached boiling point as members of both teams starting argueing and in the end mTw defeated PGS 4-2 without the need for Winners to play.
mTw's viewpoint
"Having confirmed Winners was allowed to play rukie prepared his line-up and only found out of the admin's error after the clan war had begun."
From the viewpoint of mTw, manager rukie was unsure of the rules regarding what constitute "playing" and therefore asked the admin in question if they were allowed to use Winners to which he replied yes. Having confirmed Winners was allowed to play rukie prepare his line-up and only found out of the admins error after the clan war had begun.
In mTw's eyes this is a mistake of the admin and in order to not punish mTw for the mistake of the admin in question, Perdita essentially bent the rules and allowed Winners to play. For mTw there is no conflict as an admin confirmed their player was allowed to play and in the end the player in question was not used.
PGS's viewpoint
"LLoth: All our prework, strategies and carefully selected roster was put in danger after that decision"
From the viewpoint of PGS, the rules clearly state that Winners should in no way be allowed to play and therefore according to their manager LLoth, had formulated their roster assuming that mTw could only use Protois, hanf, check and rainbow."When we pointed out its stated different in the rules the NGL decided to ignore the rule and allow MTW to use Winners," said LLoth, "All our prework, strategies and carefully selected roster was in danger after that decision".
In the end Winners did not play because Check managed to defeat three PGS players Satiini, ShrieK and Liild.C however LLoth believed another course of action by the NGL admin would have been more appropriate. "I feel the match should have either been postponed and Hanf being the substitute for Winners," explains LLoth, "or a default loss for winners which would make the end score MTW 4-3 PGS."
In the eyes of PGS they feel they were treated unfairly, "the admins didn't felt like giving us any compensation," protests Lloth "and in the end I feel that we really got ignored by the admins who made a one sided decision."
The outcome
The NGL have already issued PGS with two penalty points, 1 penalty point for ignoring the non-disclosure and 1 penalty point for "lack of manners" following the end of the clan war.








At the end of the day it did not directly influence the result of the clan war, so its not a case of PGS whining for the win, I guess it is a matter of principle. Head admins should be allowed to bend rules if they believe the circumstances deserve it.
It is just a case of how deciding if Winners made a psychological difference in terms of line-up decisions even though he did not play.
The original administrative decision was a mistake, but it's one that would have no bearing on the outcome on the game however, rectifying that mistake would have meant postponed matches.
As far as I'm concerned they made the right decision.
The rules are there to serve both players and management, not vice versa. If they want to be bureaucratic dipsticks following every rule in the book to a T, even at the expense of their common sense, then they can do that.
I'm just glad they have the sense not to.
PGS are being opportunistic and petty, WinNers being on the roster had absolutely no affect on the match at any point and insisting on a free point is just childish.
Behaving in a manner that degrades the image of the league and of themselves should be grounds for expulsion, they should consider themselves lucky.
ngl admins did a good job overall, but here it was simply their mistake and no one elses. admins are also only human. they shouldn't do mistakes, but it happens. when it does, they should admit it and find the best solution to solve it and not try to hide it.
all the penalty points, etc are just the result of pgs right to complain about this situation.
the fact that check won the rest of the matches, so that winner didn't have to play at all, is not really a point in this discussion. I mean it should be made perfectly, if this rule applies to 'actually played' or 'just beeing in the rooster'. but from normal human understanding everyone might pick the second one. so it was a mistake by the admins to allow it and there is no reason for denying it or blaming someone else for it. *period*
the question remains: one should have been the best action for the admins then? either way they would have somehow punished either one of the teams. So this way it was probably the best way this situation could have been solved.
That was in 1863. Nowadays football has become by far the largest sport in the world, so using a special name to differentiate it from other "football" codes has lost it's meaning (except in the usa where football is smaller as american "football"). Also this doesn't change anything about soccer sounding lame in comparison to football.
Personally i believe their decision to be the right one..
The thing which LLoth should have really complaint about I believe it this :
http://www.ngl-one.com/en/media/2581/
susiria and happy playing at their CW :D.
The only thing I dont full understand was the penalty point PGS got for disclosure. Which internal information? anyone care to explain?
another masterpiece of bullshit by Lloth.How could WinNers suppose to put your plan in danger ?
Very flexible & respected decision by Perdita
what a fucking joke.
http://www.pgs-gaming.pl/start.php/news/5796/
costing me ngl spot
thank you so much
why didn't you just postpone with hanf
like it should
maybe you'll get raped by Check now
then we don't have troubles
"raped"
what kind of a admin are you?
okay "ak'ed"
sorry
"ak'ed" means allkilled.
Lloth: costing me ngl spot
Lloth: thank you so much
Lloth: why didn't you just postpone with hanf
Lloth: like it should
Perdita: maybe you'll get raped by Check now
Perdita: then we don't have troubles
Lloth: "raped"
Lloth: what kind of a admin are you?
Perdita: okay "ak'ed"
Perdita: sorry
how about collecting money in public toilets?