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e-Stars: 29430 and 2/3 of a person voted - poll rigged?
Four days left and nothing much has changed since the previous "Vote Tsunami." But despite the current silence, evidence shows that this wave was hardly a natural occurrence.
By Raivo 'stormm' Streistermanis
Apr 16, 2008 12:31
Four days left and nothing much has changed since the previous "Vote Tsunami." But despite the current silence, evidence shows that this wave was hardly a natural occurrence.Four days ago we reported about the changes in e-Stars Seoul poll where the French team emuLate! managed to jump to first place with over 10,000 votes in a single day. Some claim that there were 8,000 votes in just 15 minutes.
Below are some interesting facts about "the Tsunami:"
10,000 votes in the period of 24 hours is not a small number for an esport poll and, naturally, aroused suspicion. Many people did not hesitate and accused the French of cheating. To their defence, the biggest esports and hardware websites in France made news items encouraging the French to vote for their best Counter-Strike team.
But even with a vast number of visitors, is it really possible to get so many votes in such a time span?
The picture below two shows a chart of the biggest French esport websites, esportsfrance and Team aAa are compared with the e-stars website. For some reason all three peak at the same time. Coincidence?

It could be that people may have changed their IPs and some just voted a "few" more times, which the fans of other teams must have done to some extent also.
Then, there is another thing that would indicate that someone has cheated with the votes. Everyone who participated in the voting knows that you must choose three teams to vote for. So if emuLate! received 10,000 votes it means that normally there should be an additional 20,000 mores votes divided between the other teams. But where did these 20,000 votes disappear?
Four days ago, 20,000 was more or less the sum of the votes casted on SK Gaming, Team ALTERNATE and Roccat together. The interesting thing is that it seems that other teams did not share the 20,000 between them because the number of votes for each team stayed more or less the same as before the Tsunami.
Something like that could be done with the adequate knowledge of JavaScript or by spoofing attacks or via GEMS.
The second picture shows today's voting numbers. As you can see, 29430.67 people have voted (we have arrived at this number by dividing the total number of votes by 3). How can a 0.67 of a person cast a vote?
In no situation should you get a number behind the comma unless you just add 2 more votes or any other number of votes which is not divisible by 3.
The evidence shown seems to indicate that someone rigged the poll. It can be safely assumed that fans of every team have tried to vote several times, but the Vote Tsunami is worth looking into by the e-Stars organisation.
Did someone cheat or is a badly coded poll the culprit?
UPDATE: Ethan P., the CEO of emuLate had the following to say about the situation:
"If someone was silly enough to cheat, we are not responsible. We asked nobody to vote for us. And if it's not the case, I don't know how the system calculates voting people.
We only know French esport websites put some advertising to ask people to vote for us. People asked guys at their work to vote too, even if they were not involved into esport just because we represent the nation and some of them organized MSN chain to ask for voting.
Well if e-Stars finds that the poll was rigged, what could I do? We are not responsible if silly guys tried to help us in an unfair way (if the investigation leads to this conclusion). Otherwise, I would like to thank all people supporting us, wherever they are."
Below are some interesting facts about "the Tsunami:"
10,000 votes in the period of 24 hours is not a small number for an esport poll and, naturally, aroused suspicion. Many people did not hesitate and accused the French of cheating. To their defence, the biggest esports and hardware websites in France made news items encouraging the French to vote for their best Counter-Strike team.
But even with a vast number of visitors, is it really possible to get so many votes in such a time span?
The picture below two shows a chart of the biggest French esport websites, esportsfrance and Team aAa are compared with the e-stars website. For some reason all three peak at the same time. Coincidence?

It could be that people may have changed their IPs and some just voted a "few" more times, which the fans of other teams must have done to some extent also.
Then, there is another thing that would indicate that someone has cheated with the votes. Everyone who participated in the voting knows that you must choose three teams to vote for. So if emuLate! received 10,000 votes it means that normally there should be an additional 20,000 mores votes divided between the other teams. But where did these 20,000 votes disappear?
Four days ago, 20,000 was more or less the sum of the votes casted on SK Gaming, Team ALTERNATE and Roccat together. The interesting thing is that it seems that other teams did not share the 20,000 between them because the number of votes for each team stayed more or less the same as before the Tsunami.Something like that could be done with the adequate knowledge of JavaScript or by spoofing attacks or via GEMS.
The second picture shows today's voting numbers. As you can see, 29430.67 people have voted (we have arrived at this number by dividing the total number of votes by 3). How can a 0.67 of a person cast a vote?
In no situation should you get a number behind the comma unless you just add 2 more votes or any other number of votes which is not divisible by 3.
The evidence shown seems to indicate that someone rigged the poll. It can be safely assumed that fans of every team have tried to vote several times, but the Vote Tsunami is worth looking into by the e-Stars organisation.
Did someone cheat or is a badly coded poll the culprit?
UPDATE: Ethan P., the CEO of emuLate had the following to say about the situation:
"If someone was silly enough to cheat, we are not responsible. We asked nobody to vote for us. And if it's not the case, I don't know how the system calculates voting people.
We only know French esport websites put some advertising to ask people to vote for us. People asked guys at their work to vote too, even if they were not involved into esport just because we represent the nation and some of them organized MSN chain to ask for voting.
Well if e-Stars finds that the poll was rigged, what could I do? We are not responsible if silly guys tried to help us in an unfair way (if the investigation leads to this conclusion). Otherwise, I would like to thank all people supporting us, wherever they are."
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"or you are not ready what people said in previous comments ?"
"And fucking stop with your "my team is better than your" with your stupid results"
Haha obviously u dont know anything about what people said int their comments. Since someone(a french guy) posted Roccats results from dts cup where they lost. So I just posted some off emulates results. btw nice english = or you are not ready what. LOAL
"As I said, in most of the french gaming community websites we have a big title saying "VOTE FOR EMULATE! HELP THEM TO GO AT E-STARS""
SK also have that! And SK-gaming is the biggest gaming community. 10000 in three days? Didn't u read that it also were 8000 in 15minutes! READ!! and u can also vote for 3 teams .
So u can Cry me a river, Bitch!
All you need to know is :
-Chuck Norris voted emL.
emL have just best fan ! AHAHAHAHA SK 4th so emL eliminted
the sentence : "So u can Cry me a river, Bitch!" shows your mentality, stupid kid, i'm trying to argue with you and the only thing you have to say is "Bitch" well you are a retard, I SAID that you ALL are ridiculous by posting RESULTS from EACH teams, that means FRENCH, YOU, AND ALL THE REST. It's 8000 votes now ? And 15minutes ? Oh well, that's intox. It's not in 15minutes, or just prove it ? Na you can't, cause you just want to gather people against someone.
You are just stupid, and we all agree with this fact.
Sorry for the bitch. I didn't actually see that u really were one =/
Stupid kid? LOAL come on! u can du better then that! (Try to see some american movies that aren't dubbed and u will learn some new things to say to someone)
-"i'm trying to argue with you and the only thing you have to say is "Bitch""
Didn't u read the other stuf that I wrote? Cause there where alot more than "bitch"
-"by posting RESULTS from EACH teams"
Look! I didn't START IT!
Well they wrote in the article(if u haven't read it)that some claim that there were 8000 votes in 15minutes. So I dunno if its true. But u cant prove the opposite eihter!
You are just a biaaatch^, and we all agree with this fact. Hey, you are on the INTERNET, so why care because u will never win an argument here? The world is full of scammers, cheaters, idiots, nuckleheads, Smarties, The "know it alls",fanboyz, and so one. So now I drop this "conversation" k-Bye-thx-
but I think due to the result of 2007, SK fnatic and Emulate will be there in E-star I belive
Yeah you seem a bit idiotic to me too :D
Wouldn't mind seeing Mousesports win it because I think they can put out amazing videos, and I am sure they would make a nice vid for a title like that...
Anyways, who would be so silly as to rig a pole that obviously... I hope when things are looked at in the end, the organization takes this scandal into effect before they choose if they look at viewer responses....
Mouse, fNatic, mYm, SK, Emulate are best choices for sho...
wtf ?????