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G7 Teams not to attend CPL *UPDATE*
A few weeks ago the CPL announced the return to the Counter-Strike community with hosting a Counter-Strike 1.
By Dominic 'immo' Koller
Nov 7, 2007 18:08
A few weeks ago the CPL announced the return to the Counter-Strike community with hosting a Counter-Strike 1.
6 and Source tournament at the CPL Winter 2007. Everyone was looking forward to see another great CPL event but unfortunately, there are still very few registrations of the teams to attend and the CPL already scaled down their tournament from 64 teams to 32 teams and expanding the deadline for signup. Aditionally the G7 Teams today have announced not to atend this event. Read the full statement:
The G7 Teams today have decided not to attend CPL Winter 2007 in Dallas. The reason
for not competing at this event is based on the fact that the organising company behind it
is lacking the necessary efforts that are needed in paying out cash prizes from
tournaments they organize or by licensees dating back to 2003 until today.
Earlier in 2007 the G7 Teams opened up a process to help any team or player from the
community to receive due payments from tournaments and/or leagues. Numerous mails
came in and all of them could be solved with the organisers, except most of the ones
regarding the CPL.
To grow eSports worldwide, all parties including leagues and tournaments shall need to
work together. When it comes to payouts from those leagues and tournaments, certain
rules and timeframes have to be followed, meaning forms have to be filed and sent in
within a certain timeframe. On the other hand an organiser has the responsibility to help as
well, reminding teams and players but also correct mistakes in the process.
In this particular case, the G7 Teams have recognized a huge imbalance between the
parties. Whilst teams and players seem to try to do their best, the organiser fails to help
and therefore does not show the will to actually proceed with payouts.
Travelling to an event anywhere in the world has become a smaller to larger investment
from the teams and players perspective. Being treated like described above just does not
feel encouraging enough to compete in a tournament. The decision is not limited to a
specific game nor is it limited to this particular event. Until the imbalance and
misunderstandings have been cleared up 100%, no G7 Team will send any player to any
event of the organisation above or its licensees.
The CPL have also released a statement now:
Fnatic announced today that two teams from the G7 organization (SK and Fnatic) are not attending the CPL Winter Event in Dallas. The main reason given is: “the organiser does not show the will to actually proceed with [prize] payouts.”
We are saddened that two teams that were made famous and somewhat financially independent by competitions and cash prizes at the CPL have engaged in this type of action for reasons we are told are less honorable than “representing the community.”
Sam Mathews, from Fnatic, did present the CPL with a small list of teams claiming they had not received prizes, mostly from licensees of the CPL holding their own cash tournaments with their own sponsors. The CPL explained that while it is not responsible for prizes promised by third-parties, it has repeatedly attempted to contact these third-parties on behalf of the gamers.
The CPL also explained that threatening the league with a G7 boycott was improper and that our organization does not cooperate under threat. Still the CPL Commissioner went through the list and explained the issues involving each claim.
This was obviously insufficient for Mr. Matthews as he decided to act on his threat, and while the CPL respects his right to publicly post his views and to refuse to attend the Winter Event, management believes his action may have other motivating factors.
As a matter of record it is important to also state that the CPL does operate under strict deadline policies which are disclosed in the Terms and Conditions Agreement
The G7 Teams today have decided not to attend CPL Winter 2007 in Dallas. The reason
for not competing at this event is based on the fact that the organising company behind it
is lacking the necessary efforts that are needed in paying out cash prizes from
tournaments they organize or by licensees dating back to 2003 until today.
Earlier in 2007 the G7 Teams opened up a process to help any team or player from the
community to receive due payments from tournaments and/or leagues. Numerous mails
came in and all of them could be solved with the organisers, except most of the ones
regarding the CPL.
To grow eSports worldwide, all parties including leagues and tournaments shall need to
work together. When it comes to payouts from those leagues and tournaments, certain
rules and timeframes have to be followed, meaning forms have to be filed and sent in
within a certain timeframe. On the other hand an organiser has the responsibility to help as
well, reminding teams and players but also correct mistakes in the process.
In this particular case, the G7 Teams have recognized a huge imbalance between the
parties. Whilst teams and players seem to try to do their best, the organiser fails to help
and therefore does not show the will to actually proceed with payouts.
Travelling to an event anywhere in the world has become a smaller to larger investment
from the teams and players perspective. Being treated like described above just does not
feel encouraging enough to compete in a tournament. The decision is not limited to a
specific game nor is it limited to this particular event. Until the imbalance and
misunderstandings have been cleared up 100%, no G7 Team will send any player to any
event of the organisation above or its licensees.
The CPL have also released a statement now:
Fnatic announced today that two teams from the G7 organization (SK and Fnatic) are not attending the CPL Winter Event in Dallas. The main reason given is: “the organiser does not show the will to actually proceed with [prize] payouts.”
We are saddened that two teams that were made famous and somewhat financially independent by competitions and cash prizes at the CPL have engaged in this type of action for reasons we are told are less honorable than “representing the community.”
Sam Mathews, from Fnatic, did present the CPL with a small list of teams claiming they had not received prizes, mostly from licensees of the CPL holding their own cash tournaments with their own sponsors. The CPL explained that while it is not responsible for prizes promised by third-parties, it has repeatedly attempted to contact these third-parties on behalf of the gamers.
The CPL also explained that threatening the league with a G7 boycott was improper and that our organization does not cooperate under threat. Still the CPL Commissioner went through the list and explained the issues involving each claim.
This was obviously insufficient for Mr. Matthews as he decided to act on his threat, and while the CPL respects his right to publicly post his views and to refuse to attend the Winter Event, management believes his action may have other motivating factors.
As a matter of record it is important to also state that the CPL does operate under strict deadline policies which are disclosed in the Terms and Conditions Agreement
- , and communicated repeatedly to all tournament winners via email after the events. Failure to comply does result in a forfeiture of prizes. It is also important to note that less than 2% of our winners in ten years have failed to comply with the deadlines and did not receive their prizes.
The CPL will continue to assist in any possible way the gamers that did not receive prizes promised at unofficial tournaments, but will not agree to blindly hand out checks just because some organization threatens it with negative publicity.
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Most of the players that say that they havent gotten their money should ask their organisations what they havent done yet. CPL doesnt pay out the prizes to the players but to their organisations especially for team based games.
This could mean that teams like a-losers, pentagram and so forth havent done all their tax work and stuff that they have to do to get paid. And therefore the players wont get the money. (not saying that this is the case in all occations.)
Besides for a gaming organisation to call themselves professional the gamers would get paid from the organisation and the organisation would take the fight for their money from CPL.
If the players dont get paid from their organisations then they arent proffesional. If I do an honest days work at a job then of course I should get my pay even if my employer doesnt manage to sell the product I created. Thats the risk of being an employer!!!!!
NOT
G7 has made a good choice, and this is awesome because it sets new rules on the relationship between organisers and teams. Finally teams are getting and acting together, like it should happen in any sport.
This is actually a sign of professionalisation of e-sports, not the contrary. Perhaps other organisers will learn with this and pick their sponsors/partners better from now on.
1. Why did they pick up such unserious partners? A company that calls itself Cyberathlete Professional League should be able to check the liability of their business partners
2. Why did they pick the same companies for their tournaments one year later?
3. Why is there money missin from CPL Winter and Summer? Obviously these aren't franchise tournaments, but tournaments directly run by CPL! I doubt that teams like mouz, a-losers or whatever keet the checks for theirselves and didn't pay their players
In the end, these players won't see their money, that's for sure. So the only logical consequence is not to attend tournaments from companies that have proven their incapability!
I hope all the players missing their pay manage to receive it somewhere down the road.