#103 Fnatic guys are very good, mb even better than PGS (atm), but PGS guys have won every important tournament they attended. And you cant argue with me, because its fact. And you know it :))

For the user votes, it was always going to be readmore.de to win the best site, how many people on here are logged into ESL site to vote? compare that to the amount of German people who are always logged onto ESL to message people, play leagues and play gathers, they'll vote instantly.
I bet not many people would create a login to vote, and it was expect that Germany and Poland would pickup most votes, if you did the same vote on fragbite site, fragbite would win best site, fnatic best team by far. Then if you moved it to gotfrag, they would win best site, and coL would be best team etc.
To be expect!

#108 yep but only Best eSports Coverage, Scene Journalist Award and Best eSports Game of the Year was uservote.

To be honest some of the awards were just funny. Here is how I would of done it.
eSports Team of the Year - Pandemic
Player of the Year - Vanessa
Best Warcraft III Player - Sky
Pandemic have a 60/2 record (map wins:losses), and they have won_EVERY_WoW tournament in the WSVG tour. Were not comparing PGS and Fnatics wins, because Pandemic have won everything in their respective game.
Vanessa is by far the best female player to ever play video games on a professional level. She hasn't lost 1 match in the CGS DOA4 regular and play off season, and her franchise finished 3rd/4th overall.
Sky dominated the W3CL finals, where he beat tod, creo, and grubby not to mention two from SK. He didn't drop a map (only player not to) and won with World Elite. He has been nominated now for the 3rd year in a row I believe, and find it hard to believe Tod was chosen over him despite him being nigh on unbeatable at the moment.
What I find funny is, having two winners for the journalism awards (for both online and classic press), and of course Craven winning one of them and also picking up the best coverage for readmore as well. Long live Germany!

fnatic|zr0: 3rd @ cpl

mr zr0 pls check better our achievements and stability - you are simply talking a lot of bs or even black PR.
1st WSVG London
1st World Cyber Games
3rd CPL Winter (thx for writing 5-6 which makes your whole talk senseless)
2nd SHGOpen
2nd Samsung Euro Championship
1st ESL Extreme Masters
1st ESWC
WCG and ESWC were always two biggest events for esports, PGS is the first team to won ESWC after WCG

#106 I don't think many people would be bothered to vote, as compared to the numbers already logged in from Germany.

#112 you have to be kidding.
Pandemic? there have been like four tournaments the past year... :S why they were nominated is a mystery.
Vanessa? DoA4 is played "professionally" only in the US and the scene aint that big. again why she was nominated is a mystery. it would be like nominating the Korean teams that played that dancing game at eStars, they are prolly the one of the best in EVERY tournament.
as craven says in #106 - the best coverage, scene and game nominations were based on votes but as #108 the germans did have some advantage with many germans already being registered and its easier for them to vote (even if it is a 30 sec difference :P)
#100 - the award is based on one game, and one game only. if it wasnt its quite obvious that SK-gaming would win as they have most performing teams, no one even gets close to their achivements in q4, fifa, cs female etc etc.
esports awards nominations were a bit weird this year but congratulations to every winner and neo and av3k deserved their wins however PGS vs. fnatic is a very delicate dilemma and its very difficult to decide :) but basically both cs teams deserved it imo :P

#114 > all haters

Best Warcraft III Player
Yoan 'ToD' Merlo
the fuck is that?

#118 a joke

wc3 gg

#116 Get a clue, this is the eSports awards not the CS awards. I couldn't care less about PGS or Fnatic fighting for scraps nor your opinion about Vanessa, since she has earned more by herself than your entire Counter Strike team.
Maybe look up the definition of professional in case you embarrass yourself or Fnatic further with comments like that.

#114
eh no fnatic won probably the last CS 1.6 CPL ever with all good teams including coL and 3D in their group, then beat PGS 2-0 in bo3 which everyone magically seem to forget. CPL in Dallas is a classic and ranked as high as ESWC and WCG.
fnatic is as good as PGS just admit it.
fnatic also has an incredible win streak lately while pgs lost to attax, logitech.fi etc.

Sorry maro and darky.. i was quoting from memory.. i didnt realise they still got 3rd. I also wasn't including any of the WSVG stops otherwise i could quote our 2nd and WSVG China, for example.. there really not as prestigious as the other events.

#122 but everyone knows that fnatic and pgs are on the same level...

who gives a * about those votes?
every discussion is a waste of time :)

neo the best ^_^

"Pandemic have a 60/2 record (map wins:losses), and they have won_EVERY_WoW tournament in the WSVG tour. Were not comparing PGS and Fnatics wins, because Pandemic have won everything in their respective game."
LOL _______________ in the USA? imho Pandemic cant to show this performance in europe...like POlish team!

#127 I'd say they could, haven't seen anyone able to truly challenge Pandemic so far.
You also have to keep in mind the award is called "eSport team of the year" not a repeat of "CS team of the year", so obviously the criteria is not solely limited to CS.

NEO is the best :)

wtf is with you guys, do you know only two games - cs and wc3? PGS has also fifa division which won polish championship this year and has 7 of 8 wcg.pl on lan finals so for sure 3 of them will go to Seattle. They have the europe NFS champion Cris too Oo

nice Neo pickin up 2 =]

#128 but in the other hand we can say that award is called "eSport team of the year" not "eSport organization of the year" ;)

#128 yea it is soley based on games. and when it comes to PGS and Fnatic both were nominated for their cs teams.
PGS > Fnatic, just look at zonerank.com :DD

Then doesnt that defeat the purpose of having "esport team of the year", as it is just a mirror of "CS team of the year"?