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4Kings Disqualified From Extreme Masters
Yesterday there was supposed to be a regular Extreme Masters online game, but this one turned out to be quite different.
According to ESL's website 4Kings were supposed to be playing with aKuJii, AdY, DaY, natu and Red. However, none of those players were actually by their computers at the time.
The opponents, fnatic, didn't know of their fake 4Kings opponents until 4 rounds into the game, and wether they played seriously after that or not is up to you to decide. The score table ended in a 16-5 favour of '4Kings'.
The day before yesterday 4Kings recieved their 9th penalty point and were already close to be heading out of the league. And as you can see here 4Kings has risen to 10 minor penalty points, leading to disqualification of the entire team.
The following players were faking the 4Kings team:
rav0r
dh
ward0
101
quark
**Update**
According to the 4Kings website this team had joined the server without the knowing of the management or the players, so it seems like this was just a joke from other players not connected to 4Kings. I also found a statement on fragbite.com from quark:
Yes, i just played a CS game. I didn't think about HOW IT WILL RUIN THEIR EVENING. Didn't intend to annoy them at all. Was just a friend's idea, and i thought: "why not?" Since i wanted to play them, i just thought "Go for it". Didn't think it would have made such a big deal if we got smashed tho..
Source: Fragbite.
By Richard 'WarLokk' Forslund
Feb 15, 2007 10:25
Yesterday there was supposed to be a regular Extreme Masters online game, but this one turned out to be quite different.
According to ESL's website 4Kings were supposed to be playing with aKuJii, AdY, DaY, natu and Red. However, none of those players were actually by their computers at the time.
The opponents, fnatic, didn't know of their fake 4Kings opponents until 4 rounds into the game, and wether they played seriously after that or not is up to you to decide. The score table ended in a 16-5 favour of '4Kings'.
The day before yesterday 4Kings recieved their 9th penalty point and were already close to be heading out of the league. And as you can see here 4Kings has risen to 10 minor penalty points, leading to disqualification of the entire team.
The following players were faking the 4Kings team:
rav0r
dh
ward0
101
quark
**Update**
According to the 4Kings website this team had joined the server without the knowing of the management or the players, so it seems like this was just a joke from other players not connected to 4Kings. I also found a statement on fragbite.com from quark:
Yes, i just played a CS game. I didn't think about HOW IT WILL RUIN THEIR EVENING. Didn't intend to annoy them at all. Was just a friend's idea, and i thought: "why not?" Since i wanted to play them, i just thought "Go for it". Didn't think it would have made such a big deal if we got smashed tho..
Source: Fragbite.
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Why did his post get deleted? lol.
Both teams were given the opportunity to reject the standins. 4K didn't object while fnatic did
And Chris0 fnatic did have 5 legal players ready at game time as tuxie was prepared to jump in if 4Kings would have denied speedi's participation.
However you look at it, you picked up your 10th PP.
Maybe if you was as organised as you are to write comments all over the place, you would have put 5% of that ability to write the statements on time and then this situation would be an issue since you wouldn't exceed 10 PPs.
But your to pro for that, but suddenly your now not to pro to argue your case. Imagine all this hard work could be put to some real use.
mix > fnatic mix ;]
n1 boys,... superheroes!!
OLOLOLOLOLOL!!!1!11!1'~ xD
Oh and for the record we were IN the channel for the server setting and all that had been arranged 1 HOUR prior to starting.
I only write comments all over the place because im so furious about ESL's whole handling of 4Kings in this whole league. Im pretty sure i havent been interested in any forum posts on SK/Gotfrag whatsoever in 4years of cs so lets forget about me being "active" on the matter as im pretty sure it only works in my favour.
I totally agree.
[quote]Natu had family troubles 2 hours prior to the game[/quote]
Sorry to hear that natu, hope all is ok.
[quote]You are changing every comment, you have gone from us breaking the rules to us just accepting what happens, quite ridiculous on your behalf.[/quote]
Firstly, calling me ridiculous when your late on 3 very simple match statements is ironic. Secondly, the reason I have to change each comment because I hear about more details and I just love whats happening to you.
[quote]I am so furious that people are finding more issues AFTER fnatic got beat than before.[/quote]
Because everyone was so shocked that 4K beat fnatic, they became more interested in the story.
[quote] You are looking at two teams that asked to break the rules, one got accepted and one didnt? The whole reason we didnt play was because fnatic declined our "standins" and the ESL admin neglected to tell us speedi was also inelegible.[/quote]
fnatic were going to tuxie if they couldn't use speedi, so they had a legal lineup however you look at it.
With that I shall end this charade from my side and wish you all the best at attempting to get the 10th PP removed, which won't happen. And just remember for next season, employ a gimp/teaboy/newsie however you want to describe someone like me to write your statements, then you would have an easier time now.
Good luck to fnatic in the offline finals!
Stop arguing if they cheated or not, they definitly cheated. I also think either AdY or AkuJi helped them to fake 4kings, they should be penalized.
1 thing has come obvious to me, very, very few people actualy care about other, sportmanship is obviously not in CS world these days either.
I think all of u keep clear until things get sorted out, as Aku said, the logs will clear it all out.
And regarding the mixteam that played fnatic...
I can understand u felt somewhat excited playing fnatic, but you should've thought about the consequenses. Probably, after u all read this I'd say u'd think twice before u try to do something like this again.
Well, Kind Regards and sorry for my english,
Curse
4kings should have said stop, talked to ESL like grown ups, rescheduled, and 99% of the cs community would have understood why they didnt play. But letting ringers play for them... not quite a great statement. Especially if they are "random" and win the match :D
And how did fnatic "know" that it wasnt 4K that was playing? They were able to read the teamchat? :D
"4kings should have said stop, talked to ESL like grown ups, rescheduled, and 99% of the cs community would have understood why they didnt play. But letting ringers play for them... not quite a great statement. Especially if they are "random" and win the match :D"
4Kings can not say "stop" when they are not at their computers and even then are they really going to listen to them? They did not LET ringers play for them, the other people simply went on the server whilst 4Kings were unaware of what was going on.
Maybe you should use more than a single brain cell before posting such lies.
14.02.07 19:11h Four Kings Intel new_member quark
So in theory 4K mix had a new member quark playing in the game with 4 unknowns :p
Stab me in the eye if im wrong please, we could have had 5 players online easily that isnt what we wanted or even remotely an issue. I am so furious that people are finding more issues AFTER fnatic got beat than before. The whole reason we didnt play was because fnatic declined our "standins" and the ESL admin neglected to tell us speedi was also inelegible.
Oh and for the record we were IN the channel for the server setting and all that had been arranged 1 HOUR prior to starting.