those maps are awful

just dont like the source gameplay wich u still feel to much. But if we really have to go from 1.6 to source this will certainly be an improvement!

cant play because they are for source!

the layout is great (the same as 1.6), but I think they're all too dark, definitely something that should be worked out.

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#48 thats because the cs:s model are 18% bigger than 1.6....and this maps are made with the 1.6 scales thas why its easy to jump and you cant get into the window

i LIEK IT!

Being a respected and known member of the source mapping community, I must say that these maps are really bad; in fact they are even worst then the 1.6 ones. I find this specially amusing after reading Alex saying, and I’ll quote: "The world's most popular game with better graphics"
This is do to several factors that show, and I’ve said this in all their media releases, that their mappers don't understand neither the source engine, neither the GoldSrc Engine (1.6). Main problem is the light, the most obvious factor is the usage of white lights (which are the default ones) when in fact no experienced mapper ever uses it. They are either blue, or yellow/orange. Also they don't seem to know what the "pitch" value does since they use the default on in all the maps. The pitch basically sets the direction in which the shadows are cast in the map, which changes allot their ambience.
They don't also seem to understand that source lights are different from the 1.6 ones, and that textures influences allot the way that the lights will look, so by using the same values as the ones in 1.6, or using different textures, the look will be different.
Finally their geometry is bad and different in many areas from the geometry used in 1.6. This can in the long run cause fps problems, and it will surely make the maps look really different, since different geometry means different positioning of the player and different light/shadows area.
They can over be excused since this is a beta release of the map, but I don't think that their mappers are capable of understanding how all these factors change the way a map plays.
Also #17, besides you're news post being biased, considering that they didn't had to create something new, but copy something that was already made, a year is a long time. A map like this would take 3 or 4 months top to be finished, even less since they are spending 20 hours a week on the mod.

looks nice but anyway, good old 1.6 is the best and you cant just refresh it.

looks really good especially on train you can finally see properly not like the de_train right now..

#63 it could be because these maps are not made for source, are made for the mod

#63 They are doing coding as well as mapping you know. Plus no one said they were really good at it but at least they are trying and it seems you have a clue about mapping so why not offer some free advice?
I see this as something large parts of the community needs to get stuck into so ill support it as its only alternative to that CSS crap if CS 1.6 wont be used any more :

it would be nice if they made the 1.6 maps with a new graphical layer, not just the exact same maps. if u keep the play area the same but atleast make everything else look nice it would be alot nicer imo :(

when playing on the maps you have to try and look past the fact tht ur playing source n just simply look at the map, i found that when moving around these maps they where identical to 1.6 and look alot cleaner and nicer, i am lookin forward to the beta release. there are always alot of completely retarded comments on these threads about CSP. stop bloody flaming ppl give some useful advise on how shit can be improved which it probly cant cus the maps where prity sweet realy and #63 BeKay write to thm u spaz we dnt care or offer thm some help.

#63 First of all they've stated that these maps aren't finished, they will keep working on them until the release of CSP. And secondly they are 1000000x times better when it comes to light if you compare to css. In css they use light in a that ruins the game play of the game, excessively dark in most cases. And also all the clutter and shit lying about in source helps to worsen the fps even more. But as they've stated, CSP is still in progress, and that includes the maps.

the maps is very beautiful but 1.6 > csp> css

#63 development means theyre not finished, if theyre bad or not is your opinion, but they will get improved
also they didnt only do maps in this one year, theres much more to do

If they wanna make look-a-like maps they should deff fix every single geometrical detail as #63 said, the sourcers won't have any problem with it I guess, but standing on a spot that used to give you cover and suddenly it seems that you're not covered at all that's real bad & it takes a lot of time to get used to it (at least if you're used to the 1.6 stuff).
I really hope they scale down the models as well and make everything in proportion as it should be, but if they want everything perfect I'd say they still have at LAST a half year work. Scaling is mayhem work so I wish them the best of luck.
I suppose csp will provide betas so the players can say what to be fixed BUT I do hope that they take their time to ensure every detail is as it should be. A promod is a promod!
They still have a long way to go...(BUT at least someone is doing it, valve is forcing to move to source and ZOMG fuck source xD)...1.6 > csp > source but I know there will be a time that csp will be better than anything ever created!!!

ALL MAPS NEED SOME COLOUR AND BRIGHT!! nuke is too dark and train need colour too..needs "brown like on 1.6

will cs pro mode be a separate game or what?

look ok, but end of the day, i still prefer 1.6 to source, so why play inferior maps on an inferior game? fun for a bit, got bored quickly after

will cs pro mode be a separate game or what?

if the recoil and skins are like cs1.6 it would be a good version of cs..otherwise NOT

#76 "look ok, but end of the day, i still prefer 1.6 to source, so why play inferior maps on an inferior game? fun for a bit, got bored quickly after" oh dear the obvious answer is so u can have a look at them you ********* ****?
#79 "if the recoil and skins are like cs1.6 it would be a good version of cs..otherwise NOT" ofcourse they will be.
Stop talking about it like your playing csp guys its 4 of the flippin maps on a game thts nothing like the game the maps will actually be used on.
#75 ofcourse

yeah from a movie about pro mode I saw it was like a version of cs 1.6 on source

1.6 ftw !

It's a start. I remember the first versions of CS. It had its flaws but they managed to work them out. I hope you guys can do the same.

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the makers have said that gameplay will be just like at 1.5

#85 If that's the case, I think "skill" is back again.
1.6 is way too random if you compare 1.5 and 1.6, thou a nice game.

All people who are saying - "why promod? it sucks!" etc, just use your brain for a moment. Ati, Nvidia and many more big pc giants..you think they will still keep sponsoring '1.6 old graphic' tournaments and clans? No! It will ends soon! Maybe in this year? Maybe next? But.. maybe not if:
Its all about advertisement and sale - new graphic card, new processor and other stuff. How Nvidia convince you to buy new Hyper GeForce 99999xt for '1.6' instead of your Gf4Ti4200 which is enough for this game? Its impossible!

So if we have to use new game (Source) - and we have to if we STILL want to play in all big tournaments and get some sponsoring - better with Promod. Right??

screenshots?

#66 source is an engine, not a game, so they are infact making the maps for source. When i say i'm a experienced mapper in source, i mean that i map for cs, dod, HL2 SP, HL2 DM, and i've worked on several mods before. I also did alot of work in the old engine, and i've 6 years of experience with mapping for HL. So when i say that they don't know how to use lights, and many other things, its because they really dont. You guys being "just" players, probablly don't understand this, it may take a "mappers eye" to fins this stuff, but if you guys think that this maps have decent light, then you really have no clue.
And again just to #72 the mappers don't do any coding, they just map, thats their job. If you read my previous post you would understand that i say that their maps are not capable of more, this is probablly the best they can do. Their maps have really "noob" (i don't ike using this word, but it kind of fits) mistakes.
Please remember that they are recreating what some of the best mappers in the world did. Specially DaveJ (creator of dust, for example) who was on of the first people to think about how tatical gameplay in a map.

all this map are ugly ...

FFS i dont give a fuck Counter-Strike is 1.6 not csp or css
Cheers

n1 cs promod ftw :>

#90 And yet again you keep assuming we are all just players. I do have some experience, not anyway as vast as yours but i have attempted making a few maps in the past with a friend. Anyway i see what you mean but just offer them that advice like i said and remember its just a beta :s

Look forward to the recoil fixes - right now any noob can play CS: S and hit face.

Stop laming about css gameplay. It's pretty close to cs1.6 (but of course 1.6 players [not all] have just played 2 times at css [and the one who'll say no i played a lot {more than 480hours} and it sucks, this player is an exception]). Moreover it's not css gameplay that's aimed. It's cps maps. I didn't tried them, i don't want at this time. But please, stop laming "css sucks", it's wrong. Css is a nice game with a nice gameplay (and no, recoil isn't easy to handle).
I really hope csp'll be nice, but i hope too that it won't be a cs1.6 on source. Cause i'm strating to be bored about 1.6 [ho yeah, i'm 1.6 player, not source player].
And i wish they'll create new maps for csp too.
Thanks reading, bybye.

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Seems like lots of testing went on when these maps were created

nice butt is the aim desame as source or 1.6? of the game when it releases

#97 if so they shouldn't have released them in the state they are now.

debug please

Buggy comment system for teh win.