Lower the price of the para and I will use it all the time, seriously this is the most underrated weapon in cs. its very expensive but it is the strongest gun in cs, it fires faster than the colt and it does more damage than the ak, if used properly you can do a lot of damage with it. I often use this weapon to humiliate people but every time I use it I end up doing a lot of damage.
Well, if you manage to win the important rounds, then yes! Have you ever thought about why the pistolrounds alone, can decide the whole outcome of a game? Why they are so important? Imagine if mTw, for example, would win both pistols and the following first buyrounds vs, let's say fnatic. Just by winning 4 "real" rounds they could techincally win 9-10 rounds, because fnatic have to eco all the time.
Of course a match can turn out either way and the pistols can sometimes be meaningless. But anyway, if mTw gets fnatic to eco most of the match, leading to a win for mTw. Do you think that's fair? If the final score is 16-14 in mTw's favour after a great comeback by fnatic. Who were the better team in your opinion?
The fact that the moneysystem needs a change, has been adressed by pro players before..
So you think they are better than AK and Colt? The price (surely) should be an indicator of the strength of the weapons (famas cheaper than colt - galil cheaper than ak etc.) - at least in my opinion.
They're both good guns, just very random online. On LAN they're both very nasty. Being able to scope, they HAVE to cost more, or else it would have a HUGE impact on the game. Rate of fire and damage are better on AK/M4, so those two will always fall behind. Besides, I think the AUG is only 300 more than the colt, any cheaper and it would be an eco gun.
I don't really get your point. First you say that the guns HAVE to cost more, because they can scope - in other words you consider them better than AK/Colt. Thats fair enough but why do you then say that AUG would become an eco gun, if the price was lowered? It doesn't make sense, if the gun is BETTER than Colt, it wouldn't become an eco gun, it would become the primary rifle as CT...?
I said that I like the rate of fire and damage of the colt better than the aug. The aug is only $300 more than the colt, if the price was lowered to less than 3100, it would be cheaper than the colt, and easier to afford and use during eco rounds. As it is now, the aug is affordable on the same level as the colt, and the only reason people aren't using it is because it is inferior to the colt. That said, the only reason people would buy it if it was cheaper than the colt.
"The only reason people would buy it if it was cheaper than the colt." - Why would you assume that? And also, why would it have a huge impact on the game if the price was lowered? You just said that people would prefer the Colt over the AUG...
I'm saying that because the colt has less recoil, and does more damage, is currently cheaper, and has a silencing mode for alternate spray pattern/stealth.
i dont often use it, but sometimes i do.. sig and aug are very powerful, they are maybe like colt or ak's but they are too expensive.. Make them cheaper could be great but i dont think steam is going to listen to skgaming community >_>
I dont really understand why the prices should be lowered, because the guns ARE USED. Players that train with both weapons, for example one of the best finnish players, SPIKEONE, is very skilled with the SIG and used it in for example the intel extreme masters a couple of times. Works very well.
The fact that they both do about the same amount of damage as the colt is not a reason for lowering the price, since they can zoom. It helps alot in games where the awp cannot be afforded, but you still need a sniper, for example the nuke yard. The AUG kan be really devastating because of its precision and zoom. It's in fact incredibly more accurate than the SIG.
The Valve developers thought like this when setting good prices for each weapon.
The AK has no special effect and hard recoil, but does still a nice amount of damage, so they set the price quiet low. It's also accurate for bursts.
The Colt is very accurate in every way, has easy recoil and even a silencer, and therefore has a high price.
The AUG is amazingly accurate, i think that it can already be used as an AWP, it's so incredibly easy to just zoom for the head and then fire 2 shots. I think that if it was cheaper it would outrule the awp because of its accuracy. The headshot just comes a bit too easy for a low price. I do value its accuracy and zoom over the colt's silencer.
The SIG on the other hand isnt that accurate, and the zoom isn't that good and doesnt make that big of a difference. But as I mentioned earlier SPIKEONE uses it a lot. Because of the recoil, once you learn it the weapon will be VERY devastating, and far more valuable than the AK. Seriously SPIKE kills quiet a bit with that weapon, and he is not the only one in the world to have figured that weapon out. Therefore it should not be lowered because the AK isn't as valuable as the SIG
In the last couple of years I have never seen a player use AUG or SIG in a close (and serious) match. So obviously, if we want the guns to be a part of competitive CS, the price has to be lowered. People are NEVER going to be using them unless that happens, pure logic. SPIKEONE might be using the SIG, but it doesn't work well in the CS we know today, the weapon is too expensive.
satanion, you seem to disagree with every point people make for some reason and fall back on "make it cheaper" clearly not many agree with you and your reasoning is flawed. Let it go, it wont happen. Those guns are priced at what they are because they offer a scope, think logically every gun in CS with a scope that does more damage costs more...both autosnipers, and the AWP. Now, the automatic guns with a scope cost even more (autosnipers/aug/sig) the only cheap gun with a scope is the scout because it isnt automatic and doesnt kill in one shot.
"Clearly not many agree with you"
- There has been 34 responses to this blog, so to assume that people in general don't agree... Well, that just seems extremely stupid to be honest.
"Your reasoning is flawed"
- Why? The guns are NOT overpowered, if they were people would buy them when getting 16k (which can happen at least a few times during a tournament, with a big lead). There is nothing wrong with my reasoning, the skilled players playing today has proven that hundreds of times.
"Let it go, it wont happen"
- Valve has fixed a couple of bugs during the last 3-4 years, so no it probably won't happen. Not really relevant though.
I personally feel like the AUG and SIG are great in some situations (and at the same time not overpowered). The AK does a lot more damage than the Colt, but I still prefer the colt in most situations. I would just love to see some more variety and not rely on a moneysystem made so many years ago. The Para is the most expensive gun and at the same time one of the worst - what does that tell you?
can't we do this ourselves with a scrim/match mod instead of needing valves help? I would love to have more weapons being used too... would bring a needed change to cs
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Of course a match can turn out either way and the pistols can sometimes be meaningless. But anyway, if mTw gets fnatic to eco most of the match, leading to a win for mTw. Do you think that's fair? If the final score is 16-14 in mTw's favour after a great comeback by fnatic. Who were the better team in your opinion?
The fact that the moneysystem needs a change, has been adressed by pro players before..
It would be nice to see something like this happen... see how it would change game play!! ^^ nice blog mate
Ex: I sell the AK and buy an AWP :D :D
It must be fun :D
sry for my bad english :p
The fact that they both do about the same amount of damage as the colt is not a reason for lowering the price, since they can zoom. It helps alot in games where the awp cannot be afforded, but you still need a sniper, for example the nuke yard. The AUG kan be really devastating because of its precision and zoom. It's in fact incredibly more accurate than the SIG.
The Valve developers thought like this when setting good prices for each weapon.
The AK has no special effect and hard recoil, but does still a nice amount of damage, so they set the price quiet low. It's also accurate for bursts.
The Colt is very accurate in every way, has easy recoil and even a silencer, and therefore has a high price.
The AUG is amazingly accurate, i think that it can already be used as an AWP, it's so incredibly easy to just zoom for the head and then fire 2 shots. I think that if it was cheaper it would outrule the awp because of its accuracy. The headshot just comes a bit too easy for a low price. I do value its accuracy and zoom over the colt's silencer.
The SIG on the other hand isnt that accurate, and the zoom isn't that good and doesnt make that big of a difference. But as I mentioned earlier SPIKEONE uses it a lot. Because of the recoil, once you learn it the weapon will be VERY devastating, and far more valuable than the AK. Seriously SPIKE kills quiet a bit with that weapon, and he is not the only one in the world to have figured that weapon out. Therefore it should not be lowered because the AK isn't as valuable as the SIG
- There has been 34 responses to this blog, so to assume that people in general don't agree... Well, that just seems extremely stupid to be honest.
"Your reasoning is flawed"
- Why? The guns are NOT overpowered, if they were people would buy them when getting 16k (which can happen at least a few times during a tournament, with a big lead). There is nothing wrong with my reasoning, the skilled players playing today has proven that hundreds of times.
"Let it go, it wont happen"
- Valve has fixed a couple of bugs during the last 3-4 years, so no it probably won't happen. Not really relevant though.
I personally feel like the AUG and SIG are great in some situations (and at the same time not overpowered). The AK does a lot more damage than the Colt, but I still prefer the colt in most situations. I would just love to see some more variety and not rely on a moneysystem made so many years ago. The Para is the most expensive gun and at the same time one of the worst - what does that tell you?