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Brainstorming about CS
By Anton 'BUDAK' Budak
Jun 20, 2009 11:31
Over the years I have seen a lot, I have always thought that the more you practice the better you will perform. My old team coach said to me, ”the one who dares, wins” - It's pretty straight forward; the more you play, the more you build up your endurance. The more endurance you get the bigger the hunger becomes. If you play football for 19 years, you'll definitely end up being a professional footballer. You might not end up playing in the first division straight away, but you will for sure play in the second division and that classifies you as a professional fotballer.
Get_Right is a player who has a will and hunger like no other, everyone knows about his history, from one team to another. He is one of the world's best players, but haven't had the luck to melt in socially with the teams – but still he never gave up, he continued to play and play whilst his hunger kept growing. He is a great example of a player that has had the will and hunger all the way, the bumps in his carrier has never stopped him from his goal.
Another good example is if you compare a ordinary player to a professional player. A major player has an average of 30 hours in ”played hours” whilst a professional player who wants to success has 120 played hours. It's pure fact; the more you play the better player you will become. Take fnatic as an example, who plays the most? Get_right? I don't think that the rest of the players in fnatic are playing as much as he is, same with SK. I don't want to jump on my team but I think if you have a little bit older team that has played on a professional level for a while it's naturally that they tend to play less with time. How many played hours do we have on average, 50? I absolutely do not blame our loss to the mix team on this, but I think that much of this text reflects back to what I've previously said.
I wrote about the success and will where I took get_right as an example. Is motivation one of the keys to success? I strongly believe that the more you play, the better you become. I can honestly tell you that's how it works because I have trained taekwandoo for 19 years and won multiple Swedish and nordic championships, so putting more effort into your training will show results; like it did in this case for the mix team.
When you consider the willingness, motivation and the time you put into practicing as a team you must never forget about the communication. Communication is the key to success when playing in a team, I think that Björn ”Threat” Pers did very well, I want to salute him for his calls and give him credit for reading other teams tactics pretty damn well I have to say. Same with Snajdan; he's also a good caller and a good in game leader. – But when walles instinct is flowing as it should there is no one like him, to me he's one of the worlds best callers, but when you lose too many important matches you tend to not rely on your instincts and become a tad unsure.
People has recently been speculating a lot about the loss to the get_right/gux-mix this weekend, but in all honesty, I think the mix would have great chance against teams such as fnatic or mtw – It would not surprise me if they beat them. I have recently read some comments back and forth on fragbite, sk-gaming(..etc) and have seen lots of different topics where people have sawn us after our loss to the get_right/gux-mix. I understand that some fans are disappointed, but some topics should be taken with a pinch of salt – if you are a true supporter or a fan you should be there for us in all weathers.
Do you remember a few weeks ago that Robin Söderling beat the world's best player Nadal in tennis?
Does it mean that just because we lost a game versus a mix team they're suddenly better than us and we're horrible? Lots of young players and newcomers take such findings, an example would be when SK plays against fantic, they've met a lot of times and each time fnatic wins then suddenly fnatic is a better team?
If you pracc with semi-players with little or no motivation then nothing is taken seriously. A training session is equal to one round in counter-strike, each session has to be played seriously in order to reach a professional level.
Once you're a professional player you will get used to having someone in the team as a in game leader, taking charge and let you and the rest of the team know when something is wrong. Actions has to be taken
immediately in order to win the match. Comments from your fellow team players such as "I can't be arsed to deal with it right now" will not be sufficent when you play on a professional level.
"The person who dares to train and boost up their endurance to their maximum is the person that willl success, the one who dares, wins."
Get_Right is a player who has a will and hunger like no other, everyone knows about his history, from one team to another. He is one of the world's best players, but haven't had the luck to melt in socially with the teams – but still he never gave up, he continued to play and play whilst his hunger kept growing. He is a great example of a player that has had the will and hunger all the way, the bumps in his carrier has never stopped him from his goal.
Another good example is if you compare a ordinary player to a professional player. A major player has an average of 30 hours in ”played hours” whilst a professional player who wants to success has 120 played hours. It's pure fact; the more you play the better player you will become. Take fnatic as an example, who plays the most? Get_right? I don't think that the rest of the players in fnatic are playing as much as he is, same with SK. I don't want to jump on my team but I think if you have a little bit older team that has played on a professional level for a while it's naturally that they tend to play less with time. How many played hours do we have on average, 50? I absolutely do not blame our loss to the mix team on this, but I think that much of this text reflects back to what I've previously said.
I wrote about the success and will where I took get_right as an example. Is motivation one of the keys to success? I strongly believe that the more you play, the better you become. I can honestly tell you that's how it works because I have trained taekwandoo for 19 years and won multiple Swedish and nordic championships, so putting more effort into your training will show results; like it did in this case for the mix team.
When you consider the willingness, motivation and the time you put into practicing as a team you must never forget about the communication. Communication is the key to success when playing in a team, I think that Björn ”Threat” Pers did very well, I want to salute him for his calls and give him credit for reading other teams tactics pretty damn well I have to say. Same with Snajdan; he's also a good caller and a good in game leader. – But when walles instinct is flowing as it should there is no one like him, to me he's one of the worlds best callers, but when you lose too many important matches you tend to not rely on your instincts and become a tad unsure.
People has recently been speculating a lot about the loss to the get_right/gux-mix this weekend, but in all honesty, I think the mix would have great chance against teams such as fnatic or mtw – It would not surprise me if they beat them. I have recently read some comments back and forth on fragbite, sk-gaming(..etc) and have seen lots of different topics where people have sawn us after our loss to the get_right/gux-mix. I understand that some fans are disappointed, but some topics should be taken with a pinch of salt – if you are a true supporter or a fan you should be there for us in all weathers.
Do you remember a few weeks ago that Robin Söderling beat the world's best player Nadal in tennis?
Does it mean that just because we lost a game versus a mix team they're suddenly better than us and we're horrible? Lots of young players and newcomers take such findings, an example would be when SK plays against fantic, they've met a lot of times and each time fnatic wins then suddenly fnatic is a better team?
If you pracc with semi-players with little or no motivation then nothing is taken seriously. A training session is equal to one round in counter-strike, each session has to be played seriously in order to reach a professional level.
Once you're a professional player you will get used to having someone in the team as a in game leader, taking charge and let you and the rest of the team know when something is wrong. Actions has to be taken
immediately in order to win the match. Comments from your fellow team players such as "I can't be arsed to deal with it right now" will not be sufficent when you play on a professional level.
"The person who dares to train and boost up their endurance to their maximum is the person that willl success, the one who dares, wins."
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Under årens lopp har jag sett en hel del, jag har alltid trott att ju mer du tränar desto bättre kommer du att utföra. Min gamla team coach sa till mig: "den som vågar, vinner" - Det är ganska rakt fram, ju mer du spelar, ju mer du bygger upp din uthållighet. Ju mer uthållighet du får desto större hunger blir. Om du spela fotboll i 19 år, du kommer definitivt att hamna i en professionell fotbollsspelare. Du kan inte sluta spela i första divisionen direkt, men du kommer säkert spela i andra divisionen och som klassificerar dig som en professionell fotballer.
Get_Right är en spelare som har en vilja och hunger som ingen annan, alla vet om hans historia, från en grupp till en annan. Han är en av världens bästa spelare, men har inte haft lyckan att smälta i socialt med team - men att han aldrig gav upp, han fortsatte att spela och spela medan hans hunger hållas växer. Han är ett utmärkt exempel på en spelare som har vilja och hunger hela vägen, de knölar i sin karriär har aldrig stoppat honom från hans mål.
Ett annat bra exempel är om man jämför en vanlig spelare till en professionell spelare. En stor aktör har ett genomsnitt på 30 timmar "spelade timmar" medan en professionell spelare som vill lyckas har 120 spelade timmar. Det är rent faktiskt, ju mer du spelar desto bättre spelaren du kommer att bli. Ta fnatic som exempel, som spelar den mest? Get_right? Jag tror inte att resten av spelarna i fnatic spelar så mycket som han är, samma sak med SK. Jag vill inte hoppa på mitt lag, men jag tror att om du har en lite äldre grupp som har spelat på en professionell nivå ett tag det är naturligt att de brukar spela mindre med tiden. Hur många spelade timmar har vi i genomsnitt 50? Jag klandrar inte vår förlust för mix team på detta, men jag tror att mycket av texten speglar tillbaka till vad jag tidigare sagt.
Jag skrev om framgång och där jag tog get_right som exempel. Är motivation en av nycklarna till framgång? Jag tror att ju mer du spelar desto bättre blir du. Jag kan ärligt säga att fungerar det eftersom jag har tränat taekwandoo för 19 år och vunnit flera svenska och nordiska mästerskapen, så att lägga större möda på att din utbildning kommer att visa resultat, liksom den gjorde i detta fall för den blandning team.
När du överväga vilja, motivation och tid du lagt ned träna som ett lag du aldrig får glömma meddelandet. Kommunikation är nyckeln till framgång när du spelar i ett lag, jag tror att Björn "Hotet" Pers gjorde mycket bra, jag vill hylla honom för ett samtal och ge honom äran för att läsa andra lag taktik ganska jävla bra jag har att säga. Samma med Snajdan, han är också en bra ringer och bra i spelet ledare. - Men när Walles instinkt flyter som det ska finns det ingen som honom, för mig är han en av världens bästa ringer, men när du förlorar alltför många viktiga matcher man tenderar att inte lita på dina instinkter och blir en smula osäker.
Människor har nyligen spekulera mycket om förlusten för get_right / gux-mix i helgen, men i ärlighetens namn, jag tror att blandningen skulle ha stor chans mot lag som fnatic eller MTW - Det skulle inte förvåna mig om de slog dem . Jag har nyligen läst några kommentarer fram och tillbaka på FRAGBITE, sk-gaming (.. etc) och har sett massor av olika ämnen där man har sågat oss efter vår förlust för get_right / gux-mix. Jag förstår att vissa fans är besvikna, men vissa frågor bör tas med en nypa salt - om du är en sann supporter eller en fläkt som du bör vara där för oss i alla väder.
Kommer ni ihåg för några veckor sedan att Robin Söderling slog världens bästa spelare Nadal i tennis?
Betyder det att bara för att vi förlorade en match mot en mix team de är plötsligt bättre än oss och vi är hemskt? Massor av unga spelare och nykomlingar ta sådana slutsatser, ett exempel är när SK spelar mot fantic, de har träffat många gånger och varje gång fnatic vinner sedan plötsligt fnatic är ett bättre lag?
Om du pracc med semi-spelare med liten eller ingen motivation då inget tas på allvar. En utbildning är lika med en runda i Counter-Strike, varje möte har att spela på allvar för att nå en professionell nivå.
När du är en professionell spelare som du kommer att vänja sig vid att ha någon i laget som i spelet ledare, övertagande och låter dig och resten av laget veta när något är fel. Åtgärder måste vidtas
omedelbart för att vinna matchen. Kommentarer från era team spelare som "Jag kan inte arsed att ta itu med det nu" inte kommer att räcka när du spela på en professionell nivå.
"Den som vågar att utbilda och stärka upp sin uthållighet till sin högsta är den person som willl framgång, den som vågar, vinner."
Google xD:
"Om du spela fotboll i 19 år, du kommer definitivt att hamna i en professionell fotbollsspelare."
Hamna i :O
I totally agree with everything being said here and it's very true practice makes perfect. Coming in to DH we played our praccs as we should, some being not so serious but that's what we need to keep our motivation up and still have fun playing. Obviously this time we didn't make it all the way..
I know for a fact most of these younger players, the newcomers of the pro scene, plays a lot more than most players in SK and other top teams. I do however not believe the Lemondogs loss, nor previous defeats we've suffered, necessarily has anything to do with us not playing enough. After being involved with the pro scene for as long as me and my teammates have, we know what it takes to bring out our A game.
In the end when it all comes down to performing in real games, not everything is about training. When things go wrong training is definitely something important you can fall back on and in some way still feel secure, but there are many other variables you have to think about too.
We didn't lose to a mix because we've been laying off and doesn't care anymore. We're going to continue practice just as hard as always and keep winning great games. The real fans will still support us no matter what.
/KN
could not agree more ^^
that's how the world works
but I will always be SK fans :p
go SK be number 1
"I strongly believe that the more you play, the better you become. I can honestly tell you that's how it works.."
But when you get older, you start thinking retirement as a professional player, and this thinking process will put your motivation to a testing. And when younger players with a bigger hunger come in the scene and start beating professionals, the professionals think "wtf why I am still playing". Then maybe give some space for the new guys and retire, because they have won enough and experienced almost all what the game can offer.
EDIT: wonder why I replied on Friday night..
Well to sum up, i don't really agree with the "training's hours are the key" sentiment i get from reading your thread. I think Tentpole was closer to the reality... Ofc no one can say "you don't have to train". But i would focus more on "quality training" than just hours...
Btw, great job these last months as i feel sk is really comming back after a few up and down times :D
o i guess you're damn right these days bout ttraining ;D
Well..I always wanted to know how to practice..many pro's say that u should practice in DM servers..many say by playing scrims..or demos..but does a person playing 120hrs will always be better than a 30hrs person?? Practice works for sure but quality practice works even fine..there is no point in playin hours n hours with bots or newbies..rather than with pro's and even losing to them teaches you many things..
Another thing..people download configs of the players they love and tend to use it..well the best config in my concern is the one you are playing on..what you are comfortable with..
Tentpole being a player is closer to reality..BUDAK being a coach is close to motivation and training.. :-)